Adamek could beat Haye but klitschko would ko him

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  1. brettchko

    brettchko 4th deg bk. belt Full Member

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    It is very poss. that Adamek could take Haye all though it would be a good fight , but either one of the 2 brothers would prob. stop him mid way. we will prob get to see him fight Vitaly ,but the klits are much more skilled than Grant and Wlad would ko him fast, Adamek should go after the WBA belt...
     
  2. LocoRoco

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    of course he could beat haye, but i would bet on haye
     
  3. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe...maybe not. Logic says yes. Adamek thinks no, & he seems to have a very strong will.
     
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    uraharakisuke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It would be competitive but Haye would win (if he actually took the fight in the first place that is).
     
  5. Duty281

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    Adamek has got more skill than Haye, but Haye has got more power. Haye would KO Adamek in 10, I reckon.
     
  6. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    TBH I don't see him beating Haye. Aside from his chin Haye is the superior fighter in the HW division as he hits infinitely harder, is faster and has some impressive skills. Although Adamek is popular for his chin I don't believe it holds up as well es in the lower weight classes. David Haye might even spark him.

    Adamek absolutely stands a chance against Haye but I wouldn't bet on him. He'd be a heavy underdog.

    And yeah, Adamek should never ever enter the ring with Wlad. Adamek's not going to KO him and he is not going to decision him (nobody has ever come close to doing that) but I'd like to see him fight Vitali. Not that he has a great chance of winning but the style match up would be quite interesting since Vitali doesn't hit as hard as he used to and thus would make this match a battle of the better technique.
    But Wlad still KOs him through his guard. : /
     
  7. TommyV

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    Adamek could not take Haye's power. If Haye is smart and cagey early like he was against Maccarinelli, and is patient in setting up his best shots, he takes Adamek out early.
     
  8. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tomasz may have been working on his power but he just doesn't seem to have a HW punch. I mean he just doesn't throw his shots with full body commitment behind them like other 'small' succesful heavies like Holy or Tyson. He throws mainly combos and even when he tries to land some semi-looping shot, he seems to have this iron habit of immediate asecurration, not letting himself to go even slightly out of position. It looks like it prevents him from throwing full power bombs.

    He won't scare Klitschkos with this power and just doesn't seem to have any business in the ring with them unless he learns how to throw bombs which seems next to impossible at this stage of his career.

    Haye on the other hand seems to have enough speed and power to take him down with one or two shots whenever, while Adamek's offense would prolly not be enough to put Haye in deep trouble early. Tomasz is tough as nails but is not a defensive genius. His chin may be top notch but he's not McCall either as shown by Grant. Because of this I think it's maybe 60-40 chances that Haye gets to him before he gets to Haye. I call it as I see it.

    If he avoids Haye's bombs well enough though, his chances are growing with every round, surely. So he should target David.
     
  9. TommyV

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    A very good and fair post.
     
  10. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek has shown nothing of note in the heavyweight division , he has yet to face a fast explosive heayweight with good technique. A Haye fight would be the absolutely wrong place for him , I like adamek , but there are levels in this sport. He would be cut up and stopped bravely around the 6th.
     
  11. bkamins

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    :roll: Wait a second there, Ray. Adamek has beaten a good boxer in Estrada, a veteran in Golota, a slugger in Arreola, and a big guy in Grant. By comparison, Haye has four 4 veterans with an average age of 38...All of them were past their prime, none of them could punch, or had any speed...And you're accusing Adamek of not showing enough at heavy?

    Granted (no pun in tended), he hasn't been as impressive as Haye. But he has fought a much greater variety of fighters. We know for certain that Adamek is at least a solid, well-rounded heavyweight. We don't know that about Haye yet.
     
  12. LocoRoco

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    good unbiased post :good
     
  13. leedsnproud

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    Haye v Adamek would be the most interesting fight for years in the heavies. It should be made to come off next ffs.
     
  14. Ukansodoff

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    If Grant had any real skill about him hed of used all the advantages better than he did, The Klitchkos would definatly use all the advantages and make mince meat of Adamek.

    Dont think Adamek has power to worry about in this division, though most the shots landed on Grant were at full stretch, they looked harder than they were. I think Haye takes him out too, If Grants quick enough to time him then Haye is.
     
  15. Vano-Irons

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    After last night I would say with confidence that Haye knocks him out in 6.

    Hopefully the fight is made for November.