Arum to Marquez: Fight Berto first before thinking about Pac

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Aug 20, 2010.


  1. Real_Truth

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    Dude I ****ing promise you Pac will kill JMM at 140 lbs and above...I ****ing PROMISE
     
  2. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the fight should be at no higher than 140, pac can make 140 even 135 if he takes a **** before the weigh in
     
  3. Real_Truth

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    Ummmm...don't know about you but I have never taken a **** that even came close to 5lbs...that's a lot of **** :lol:
     
  4. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Margarito is hardly prime, the last quality performance he put in will the best part of 2 and a half years ago come November.

    Since then he got his usually reliable chin smashed, banned from boxing for attempting to cheat which put question marks over his previous victories and looked like **** in his comeback fight.
     
  5. ant

    ant Ride The Walrus Full Member

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    have a meat feast pizza and ben and jerrys ice cream and be prepared for awe the mornin after lol
     
  6. divac

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    By the way the Pac team tells it, they feed him a 7500 calorie diet. He could take a 5 lbs **** with ease with that amount of food intake.


    Dont forget.....for fighting true welters, they have to overfeed Pac to a tune of a 7500 calorie a day intake......

    .......but when it comes to the talk of fighting Marquez at 140 lbs, all of a sudden Pac's a welter who cant make 140 lbs any longer.


    :lol::lol::lol:The Pac team contradicts itself so much, that in reality what they are accomplishing by such jibberish is saying, "Pac is a PED user."

    .......they have to overfeed him to stay strong for the abuse his body will take from the continuous physical workouts his PED use alllows........but its possible Pac may not be able to drop to 140 lbs and continue with the same physical regimen that has allowed him to compete at 147 lbs and still be as strong at 140 lbs that he was at 147 lbs.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    Pac can make 140lbs easily. I don't see where they said he couldn't. Why would Pac put himself at a disadvantage by fighting his next fight at 140 and then the one after that could be at 147 or even maybe 150lbs.

    Pac is that dude that has to fight everyone else at their weight or he gets shat on. He has to fight Oscar at 154 or he gets shat on, Marquez at 140 or he gets shat on, PBF at 147 or he gets shat on, Cotto at 147 or he gets shat on, Margarito at 154 etc etc etc.

    Yet noone ever gets discredited for making Pac move out of his weight. Noone says Oscar fought Pacquiao 3 divisions up from where he was 9 months earlier. That Cotto made Pac move up from 140 to 145. That Margo would be fighting Pac 5lbs above his highest career weigh-in.

    Pac is the only guy who is expected to see-saw up and down with his weight and who gets dissed if he doesn't.
     
  8. Doc

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    The reason he fought Morales again was because 1 year later morales was on a decline after having lost a fight...

    Of course Morales was on really steep decline when the 3rd match happened.



    Since Marquez is also on a decline why not face him? since paconly knows to face fighters that are not the same as they use to be but banks on their reputation.
     
  9. aztec1

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    For the first time I agree with you spud...:good
     
  10. divac

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    What the **** are you talking about?

    Except for talking about a possible Marquez fight, Roach has said Pac is not a natural Welter, in fact before the Cotto fight he had said Pac should be fighting as a 140 lbs.
    They wanted the Mayweather fight at a catchweight below 147 lbs......

    ......a fight at 140 lbs vs Marquez is not having Pac come down to Marquez' weight, in fact that would be Marquez coming up to Pac's weight.

    Marquez is a lightweight who'd be fighting Pac at what Roach has said should be his natural weight right now.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    then fighting Pac at 147 is no different for Marquez than fighting at 140, since you said yourself Pac's weight is 140. The only difference is that it allows Pac to continue trying to adapt his body to WW for future fights. Going down to 140 and then back up to 147 or even JrMW right after is not a great plan and would put Pac at a disadvantage after the Marquez fight..
     
  12. sdsfinest22

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    an old lw...tony doesn't know how to slip a punch even..JMM has the style to counter pacquiao effectively for 12 rounds...first two fights show this...

    as for people saying how good manny is now with two hands and blah blah ....it was said before the rematch n manny took a 1pt victory which many didn't give him...I had pac winning the rematch btw 114-113
     
  13. divac

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    ......the difference being that Pac would have the benefit of bulking up to 147 lbs via the use of PED's, which many in the boxing world already feel he's on.........


    When you have two equal sized fighters moving up a division, common sense will tell you that if one fighter moves up via the use of illegal performance enhancers, he's going to be at a tremendous physical advantage.
     
  14. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    :good agreed with you right there:good
     
  15. sdsfinest22

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    Jmm can take the counter to manny....they want no parts of jmm at 140...might ruin his chance for a fight with floyd even if its only a close victory...