5 Reasons Mayweather is greater than Manny Pacquiao: Read Clearly!!!

I'm better than both :deal

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1) Disagree. Floyd can only fight 1 way, running.

2) Disagree. Pac has fought 8 fights against ATG's, how many has Floyd?

3) Agreed. Floyd has consistently ducked the toughest opponents.

4) Disagree. Floyd was a protege from a boxing family, of course he got
better coverage. They both won their titles at the same time, in fact Pac won his at a younger age, a lineal one at that. The only reason he wasnt in the spotlight then was because he was in a lower weight class and wasnt american/mexican.

5) Nope. As we can see, Pac at a disadvantage facing bigger opponents that Floyd also fought, Pac fared better head 2 head, he anihilated them. He outboxed DLH and simply destroyed Hatton. Sure you can bring JMM up but that was a LW going up to WW, Floyd had the advantage and was a huge favourite to begin with, and he couldnt even stop him


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Pacquiao vs. titlists: 15-2-2
Mayweather vs. titlists: 14-0

Pacquiao vs. likely HOFers: 8-1-1
Mayweather vs. likely HOFers: 4-0 (6-0 if you want to count Castillo, but I doubt he makes it)

So #2 your argument that Mayweather had more wins against champs and HOFers is wrong. Just saying.

 

I wanna start off by saying I hate Floyd Mayweather Jr. as person but I do respect him as boxer. I will not attack him personally.
Let's see:

Mayweather:

Mosley
Marquez
Hatton
Hoya
Baldomir
Judah
Gatti
Castillo (Funny FLOYD has never had any close fight :rofl You've forgotten their first fight.)
Hernandez
Chavez
Corrales

I have a feeling that I missed someone.

Pacquiao:

Clottey
Cotto
Hatton
Hoya
Diaz
Marquez
Barerra
Morales
Larios
Sanchez
Ledwaba

Ok since I can't remember nor am I in the mood to look up names. I agree. Ok let's say Mayweather has fought more former/current world champions. You do realize that Paquiao has 2 trilogies. He had a close fight against Marquez.

Mayweather - I just wanna remind you had a close fight against Castillo. Voiding your statement of Mayweather has never been in a close fight.

I don't think you understand that Pacquiao and Mayweather have 2 different styles. One is offensive and the other one is defensive. As for Pacquiao has zero defense? That just ridiculous. He has head movement in the lower weight classes even now. His upper body movement is not as good as Mayweather it definitely exist. Pacquiao's footwork IMO is greater than Mayweather's. It's faster. Mayweather relies on his shoulder roll and upper body movement. He plants his foot to the canvas and shoulder roll then counter with a right straight. That's his signature.

Pacquiao was or is called one dimensional because all he in relied on was his 1-2 punch combination.

When Mayweather was in the 5th out 10 P4P in 2003 Pacquiao was just at 6th place. My point is their gap isn't that large in the rankings. I'll agree that at 130, and 135 he was great. I was really impressed

Oh FYI, Manny Pacquiao is known as one of the greatest feather weight that stepped in the ring.

I'm not saying that Pacquiao is better or Mayweather is better in boxing. I'm saying both of them has good chance of beating each other. I've to give the edge to Pacquiao just because Mayweather is trouble by south paws and Pacquaio is a unique south paw and defense and power has increased after he moved from 130. Then again the only way for all of us to find out who will beat whom is if they fight.

I have a hunch that you've barely watched Pacquiao's growth as boxer.

 

15-0. Gregario Vargas was WBC featherweight champ

So #2 your argument that Mayweather had more wins against champs and HOFers is wrong. Just saying.[/quote]

8 hofers? who would that be?

 

there's about a million boxers throughout history that have better technical skill than Manny. Manny is STILL greater than them.

Resume. Before 2003, he was tearing it up in Asia. Just because he was an unknown to the world, doesn't make him less greater than others. He's the greatest asian fighter. Nuff said.

achievements vs greatness. the achievements is what makes Manny Great. Not his level of skill.

 

The Only Reason That Matters Is In Favour Of Pacquiao Being The Greater Fighter:


Your perception or my perception of a fighter's skills is NOT what determines greatness. That simply is not the case here in reality.


What determines greatness in boxing is a fighter's career - his RESUME, and his ACHIEVEMENTS.


That's why someone like Salvador Sanchez (whose career was cut short) is not rated as highly in historical terms as a guy like Emile Griffith (whose ability never got anyone anywhere near as excited as Sanchez's did, but who fought everyone, had a long career, and accomplished some great things).


That's just a fact, fighters are judged on resume and achievements, not what you or I think of a fighter's skillset, this is reality. When historians are arguing whether Robinson or Langford or Greb or Armstrong is the GOAT, they compare their careers, not their defensive ability or their punching power, because their career accomplishments are FACT, whereas what you or anyone else thinks of their power or defence is OPINION only, and is of only peripheral importance in an objective debate.



And in terms of RESUME and ACCOMPLISHMENTS, Manny Pacquiao has a clear edge over Floyd Mayweather at this time. A clear edge. Pacquiao's weight-jumping achievements are far, far better than Floyd's, and his resume is stronger as well.


End of argument. :good

 

the TS defined greatness using his own definition and NOT everyone's perceived defnition of greatness.

 

8 hofers? who would that be?[/QUOTE]

So what if Vargas was the WBC champ?

 

Barrera 1 great win

Morales 2 and 3. Haters will hate, but the man was at the end of the road. He got shut out by Zahir Raheem before the 2nd fight. Compounded by the fact that he couldn't effectively make weight anymore, and was forced to come down in weight. Manny places weight penalties on him $500,000 if he went over a pound.

The sad thing is, in 50 years people won't remember the minor details of what went on. They'll just look down on a piece of paper and say "WOW he avenged his losses twice against the Mexican great Morales". Big name and he was more than likely the biggest money fight at the time. I can't hate on him for avenging the 1st loss(Even if he did make Morales come down in weight), but the 3rd fight was overkill because the man was clearly done.

Haters will also hate, but I did give the 2nd fight to Manny(Despite Marquez landing more punches). Marquez can't stay on his feet against Manny...

 

It's quite easy to break down at this point in both guys' careers.

- Mayweather always had the better skills.

- Pacquiao is ahead in terms of accomplishments and overall resume although it's quite close right now.

The only way to truly set them apart is for them to face each other.

Mayweather would easily be ahead of Pacquiao right now if he consistently kept looking for the best possible fights once he got to welterweight.

He got my sincere respect by dismantling Shane Mosley but since Sharmba Mitchell, he hasn't tested himself enough to be ahead of the Pacman.

 

Close? How? :?

 

Decent post although I don't agree I see your point and Floyd has a great career with a very solid resume. But I absolutely disagree with your feeling that Floyd somehow has a better resume or career than PAC. Proof is validated with what their resumes actually have on them and no one can question PAC's resume by far exceeds that of Floyd's. Regarding their craft, style and ability....that is more of a debate. Floyd is a very technical fighter with unreal talent/ability. But Manny also has his strengths that Floyd can't match. We're talking about two great fighters that our era has produced. It's always gonna be a debate but ultimately the majority will speak and at the moment they are saying Manny is the greater fighter. Just at the moment.:yep