Prime Riddick Bowe vs Prime Vitali Klitschko

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  1. Muchmoore

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    Did Moorer fight an unbeaten and healthy Holyfield (two things I specified in my post)?

    Bowe didn't face a hard puncher? What the hell is Herbie Hide? Bowe took his best and knocked him out, and Golota can certainly punch as well and Bowe absorbed everything he had when he was shot.
     
  2. Muchmoore

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    A 38 year old Lennox Lewis who was at his career highest weight fought a poor mans Riddick Bowe fight from the 3rd round on against a prime Vitali and tore his face apart.

    People really underestimate Bowe's offensive capability. Holyfield has a much more proven chin than Vitali (in fact, he went 24 rounds with a much better version of Lewis and was never put in trouble) and Bowe nearly knocked him out in their first bout (and did in the rubber match).

    Lewis cracked Vitali with some nasty uppercuts, and one thing Bowe did better than Lewis and just about anyone was throwing uppercuts.
     
  3. lefthook31

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    what about Cooper and Seldon and Gonzalez, they were all very solid hard punchers as well. This BS that Bowe never faced a puncher is ridiculous.
     
  4. Muchmoore

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    :good

    He gets that rep because he didn't face Mercer, Morrison, etc. but it's not his fault. Mercer ****ed it up by losing to Jesse Ferguson who Bowe then defended his title against.

    I do think Vitali presents some serious stylistic issues here but Bowe simply presents more for Vitali.
     
  5. Briscoe

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    I'm giving it to Bowe because he seems like the type of 'big man' that would have no shame in taking to the inside on VK. Each man will get staggered in this match, each man will look pretty damn good, Bowe has the advantage on the inside.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    this is brilliant.
     
  7. he grant

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    Bowe, big .. however only the Bowe of Holyfield 1
     
  8. Briscoe

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    Bingo! That's exactly what I had in mind. Bowe is much more of a threat then the other way around. That "Futch built" inside game has a lot of thudding tools that could rip VK up.

    VK only gets an edge if he plays it close (and keeps perfect distance)...but Wlad is much more capable of being that type of boring. I'd say the biggest thing VK could do is keep distance and throw straight punches...which is more of his brother's forte. I always liked VK better (then Wlad) despite the fact his career doesn't look as sharp (with the injuries and all).
     
  9. lefthook31

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    If Bowe was avoiding punchers he wouldnt have faced Bert Cooper or Jorge Gonzalez when he didnt need to. Cooper is certainly a more proven puncher than Ray Mercer in my book.
    Gonzalez had won just about all his fights by KO, and although against unknown comp, he would still be seen as a danger (undefeated), at the time if they were avoiding punchers. Gonzalez was a big puncher in the amatuers as well.
     
  10. Blood Green

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    I think Vitali's footwork would give Bowe plenty of problems. Bowe would have trouble finding a comfortable distance and look like the smaller man.
     
  11. crippet

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    You missed out Lewis there -Was it not his fault that he didnt fight Lewis?
     
  12. Muchmoore

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    Not fighting Lennox Lewis doesn't mean he never "faced hard punchers."
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    It's unbelievable how overrated Vitali Klitschko is. Never have I seen a fighter rated so highly for such a **** poor resume both in quality and quantity.
     
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  14. lefthook31

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    Ultimately it was Bowes fault. If he wanted to face Lewis right after Holyfield, he could have, but if you were Bowe and your manager came to you and said, look you can fight Lewis right away and make 10-15 million or, you can sign this HBO six fight deal that could potentially be worth 100 million. Were going to give you a couple easy fights first and then fight Lewis Holyfield and Tyson, but either way you are guaranteed six fights win or lose.
    Factors on both sides derailed the Lewis fight down the line, and it makes Bowe look really bad for not taking him on right after Holy, but I dont think he made the wrong decision financially at that time he still held two of the three belts, and he had two easy paydays.
     
  15. crippet

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    Is this a joke?

    When talking about great heavyweight chins do you think people say Ali had a great chin he could even take a shot from Seldon - Or would it be a great test for McCall to not be KO'd off Gonzalez.

    Your post petty much proves that you have an opinion on this and facts will not change that for you. You disregard commen sense and pull out C tier fighters as baking to your baseless argument.

    1 Bowe was easy to hit
    2 He could overwhelm fighters who he massively oversized
    3 When given the chance to prove his woth against a serious puncher [someone who could actually punch harder than Seldon] he ran throwing the belt in the trash
    4 His style guaranteed that he would be hit a lot and imagine Lewis or even old forman was in the ring when he fought Hide.
    5 Hide is not a top tier puncher - he is a top domestic puncher no more no less.
    6 Never has so much been attributed to someone for doing so little than Riddick Bowe!!