IF hopkins beats pascal

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Messages:
    81,676
    Likes Received:
    21,961
    by the way, i dont think hopkins will win.

    but he has upset the odds so often it is worth considering.

    if hopkins does beat pascal, where does the victory rate on his resume?

    is it better than or worse than his wins over

    tito
    tarver
    pavlik
    odlh
    wright
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Messages:
    81,676
    Likes Received:
    21,961
    i personally think it would be #2. behind tito.
     
  3. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    6,396
    Likes Received:
    1
    Its probably only just on par with Pavlik, maybe a tad higher.

    And I'm big Pascal fan.
     
  4. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    6,396
    Likes Received:
    1
    Though could be higher than the ODLH win as ODLH was coming off a robbery victory v Sturm.
     
  5. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    6,396
    Likes Received:
    1
    Voted top 4 by the way.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Messages:
    81,676
    Likes Received:
    21,961
    pascal has just come off a victory over p4p ranked dawson, and established himself as the best lhw. IF hopkins somehow wins i see it as a great achievement.
     
  7. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    6,396
    Likes Received:
    1
    1. Pascal has already been beaten (yes and dont go on to me about how he ahs imporved so much, I know, I even paid to watch some of his recent fights - also I know he fought the wrong fight v Froch).

    2. Pascal has never been as highly regarded as the names you mention and has only just got anywhere close to them with his win over Dawson who was very overrated.

    3. As much as I love Pascal I can see weaknesses that Hopkins COULD exploit.

    Though I do think Pascal comes away with a close but clear UD.
     
  8. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    9,561
    Likes Received:
    9
    Proof that the fight has been made??????
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    76,121
    Likes Received:
    2,761
    Whoever he beats it would be underrated and overlooked, I think I'm used to that with Hopkins now. I barely see enough writers giving him credit and I think it's obvious why. Most of these writers are old out of shape farts who would injure themselves hoisting a beer and are steps away from death so when they see Hopkins, at his age, doing what he does it doesn't appeal to them rather than giving them the hope it should.
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    22,781
    Likes Received:
    355
    1) Tito - ATG win.
    2) Tarver - Great, great win.
    3) Pavlik / Pascal tie - Why? Because i think while both were supposedly "great" when they fought Hopkins, they went on or will go on to lose against superior fighters. In the case of Pascal, he loses to guys like Bute, Ward, etc. Very good but too flawed to beat the truely "elite".
     
  11. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    22,781
    Likes Received:
    355
    And just to add, had Dawson fought with any heart, i think he would've KOed Pascal. So in that sense, Pascal is already getting somewhat overrated. But he does deserve a ton of credit but Dawson fought like he didn't care for 90% of the fight. When he did let his hands go, Pascal seemed to be overwhelmed.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Messages:
    81,676
    Likes Received:
    21,961
    apparently its on the scene
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Messages:
    81,676
    Likes Received:
    21,961
    yes but pascal is right now the king of his division, young and in his prime. i would rate a victory above all the others bar tito
     
  14. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2010
    Messages:
    1,220
    Likes Received:
    1
    Hopkins is one of my fave fighters ever



    at 45 he can choose to fight whoever i think.


    maybe pascal might be to much for him but there's one thing you should never ever count hopkins out
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2009
    Messages:
    81,676
    Likes Received:
    21,961
    i just cant envision him coming away victorious