Kats V Marquez - November

At this stage I'm thinking the JMM Katsidis fight will happen as I dont see Pac agreeing to another fight with Marquez but nothings certain in this game thats for sure.

I'd rather not see Katsidis go up to junior welter at this stage.

 

Mick would be a fool to move up but money and his guts get in the way of logic imo . we all know if you cut Kats in half there you would find the very definition of a "battling Aussie" mate . he'll bite . :deal

 

according to this article you may be right.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5494918

 

Fark i wish Juan would make up his mind already!!!

 

Sadly i think he'll go with the bigger fight which means Khan......... more money involved and another weight division champion.

 

My thoughts exactly.

Realisticly, JMM can face Khan later, after he has fought Kats. IF he was smart this is what he should do, 1. because he has a better chance of beating Kats than Khan (styles make fights). 2. If he loses to Khan he's shortened his career and cut of more lucrative options.

So doing Kats first and Khan next makes much more financial sense. If he does Khan first and loses, he has no belt to defend, no chance of a manny rematch, and unlikely to get khan rematch. And depending on how bad he loses to Khan (if he loses) he may just end up being labelled as shot.

 

Hey Kel , I read earlier that Khan reckons JMM is pricing himself out of a bout with him and Team khan are looking at a Maidana fight in its stead leaving Team Katsidis with their dream battle with JMM, not a bad outcome of things if it does indeed pan out like that ...

What to you all reckon on Kat's chances v JMM ? i know kat's is as game as they come but imo JMM has been around the block on more than one occasion and will either stop Mick late on cuts or be to convincing a winner over the distance . all said and done there's a couple of decent fights to look forward to .....:good

 

Kats will be the outsider no doubt.

He has a chance but realistically if he can't beat Casa and Diaz then JMM is a step up from those 2.

 

i think he has improved from those losses.Ramirez wasnt great but Chavez,Escobedo and Mitchell were great efforts IMO.still he will be a heavy underdog against JMM.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5497223


Juan Manuel Marquez to stay at 135

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By Dan Rafael
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Lightweight champ Juan Manuel Marquez has made up his mind.
Marquez will stay at 135 pounds for a possible fall fight with Michael Katsidis rather than move up to junior welterweight to attempt to become the first Mexican to win titles in four weight classes, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com on Wednesday after meeting with Marquez in Mexico City.
Schaefer met with Marquez to discuss the options, which included him remaining at lightweight to fight Katsidis (27-2, 22 KOs), the all-action Australian brawler, an interim titlist who is Marquez's mandatory challenger, or moving up to junior welterweight for a possible fight with 140-pound titlist Amir Khan.
Marquez elected to stay at lightweight, where he defended the title with a lopsided decision against Juan Diaz on July 31 in a rematch of Marquez's ninth-round knockout win in the 2009 fight of the year.
"It was clear. He will stay at 135 pounds," Schaefer said.
The decision also could pave the way for Khan, who needs an opponent, to defend his title against Marcos Maidana in December, Schaefer said.
Schaefer said Nacho Beristain, Marquez's trainer and a proponent of him remaining at 135 pounds, was at their meeting.
"So now we are going to try to put together the deal for Marquez and Katsidis. Hell of a fight. Toe to toe. Mano a mano," Schaefer said. "This is a great fight. I'm excited for the fighters and the fans as well. This is going to be non-stop action. Pound for pound, these are two of the most exciting fighters in boxing."
Schaefer said the HBO date he has for the fight is Nov. 27, which is Thanksgiving weekend, not the best on the calendar for a major fight.
"That's what they gave me," Schaefer said. "I don't love it. It's not the best date, but it's what we have and we'll make it work."
He said the fight would probably be at the Mandalay Bay or MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Schaefer said he only briefly discussed the particulars of a deal for the Katsidis fight with Marquez (51-5-1, 37 KOs) and has not negotiated it with the Katsidis camp.
"I can't negotiate the purses until I know the HBO license fee, but when I work it out with HBO, then I can go back and forth with the fighters and work out the purses," Schaefer said.
He said he did not expect a hard time making the deal with Katsidis and his manager/trainer Brendon Smith. The Marquez fight is what both have wanted for quite some time.
"I talked to them before and informed them that I was going to see Marquez," Schaefer said. "They made it clear to me that this was the fight they wanted. So I had those conversations with them and I told them I needed to see what Marquez wanted to do. Now Marquez has told me what he wants to do and, in the coming days, I will be talking to the parties on both sides and trying to put that fight together."
Long-range, Schaefer said if Marquez defeated Katsidis, he would still attempt to move to junior welterweight with his eye on a title shot.
"Marquez didn't say he didn't want to fight at 140, only that right now he wants to stay at 135," Schaefer said. "But moving to 140 next year is very possible. We talked about him fighting Erik Morales at 140 next year. He can establish himself at 140, or if Morales wins, it would be big for him. The winner of that possible fight could be a potential opponent for Amir Khan."
Morales (49-6, 34 KOs), the faded Mexican star, who also has won titles in three divisions, ended a 2½-year retirement in March by outpointing Jose Alfaro in a welterweight bout. He is scheduled to fight Willie Limond at junior welterweight on Sept. 11.
Schaefer said he envisions a pay-per-view fight between Marquez and Morales taking place in March at famed Azteca Stadium in Mexico City. Marquez-Morales is the one match that never happened among the featherweight/junior lightweight quartet of stars of the 2000s that also included Manny Pacquiao and Marco Antonio Barrera.
"I already knew Morales was interested in that fight," Schaefer said. "And I know now that Marquez is interested in it too."
With Marquez electing to remain in the lightweight division, it leaves Khan (23-1, 17 KOs) in need of a fall opponent. He is penciled in for an HBO fight on Dec. 11, either in the United States or in his native England.
"I just talked to the Khans and we'll see if we can put together a fight with [interim titlist Marcos] Maidana," Schaefer said.
Maidana (28-1, 27 KOs) would have to win his fight on Saturday night, when he defends his belt in his native Argentina against former titlist DeMarcus "Chop Chop" Corley.
"If Maidana wins, we will see if we can put that together for Dec. 11," Schaefer said. "I don't know yet if it would be in the U.K. or the U.S. The Khans are checking with [British broadcaster] Sky and I will be talking to HBO to see what makes the most sense."
Dan Rafael is the boxing writer ESPN.com.

 

Victorian promoter Peter Maniatis only recently returned from o/s and spoke first hand with PacMan whilst away.

The feedback is that Floyd has two immediate issues:

1/ Roger Mayweather's legal 'difficulties'.
2/ Floyd's tax issues - meaning he needs to wait a little while for his next big earner.

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Looks like you were spot on RA again mate . Katz has his work cut out but stranger things have happened , hard to choose i'n this one as bithofnthese are a credit to the sport but I will go with my head as opposed to the heart , JMM late round stoppage IMO
Good luck to the both of them .

 

Juan Manuel Marquez Wants Katsidis Next - November 27th The Planned Date

By James Slater - Lightweight king Juan Manuel Marquez

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of Mexico had two options for his next fight: either go up to 140-pounds and challenge WBA light-welterweight ruler Amir Khan, or stay at 135 and defend against mandatory challenger and interim WBO champ Michael Katsidis. Well, according to ESPN.com, the 37-year-old has chosen to get it on with the tough and exciting warrior from Australia.

According to Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy, the fight is set to go ahead on November 27th - Thanksgiving weekend in the States - and that the fight will likely take place in Las Vegas, at either The MGM or at The Mandalay Bay..

A great fight on paper, with both men more than willing to go to war whenever they fight, Marquez-Katsidis could even become a fight of the year candidate. Marquez, fresh off his good win over Juan Diaz

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, may not be quite the fighter he was a few years ago, but he is still around 75% the sensational fighter he was in his prime. And Katsidis, thought by some to be a “shot” fighter until he roared back in impressive style to smash would-be star Kevin Mitchell in his last outing, appears, amazingly, to have improved some (or did the easy-looking win over Mitchell serve to unduly flatter “The Great?”)

The ultimate plan for Marquez - though Lord knows he shouldn’t in any way look past Katsidis - is to win in November and then make the move up to 140 to face Britain’s Khan. Still very much wanting to become the first Mexican to capture world belts at four different weights, “Dinamita,” according to Schaefer, could well move up next year. Schaefer also continues to speak of a Marquez-Erik Morales fight, also to take place at 140-pounds.

So, we may have a few exciting Marquez fights to look forward to (even if most fans will probably look at the Morales fight as something of an easy win for Marquez). Also of interest, is where Marquez’s decision to stay at lightweight leaves Amir Khan. Now that the Bolton man will not be facing the Mexican legend, just who will he get it on with in his next fight, all but set for December 11th?

Schaefer said he has talked with the Khans about Amir facing WBA interim champ Marcos Maidana in December; either in the U.S or the U.K.

“I just talked to the Khans and we’ll see if we can put together a fight with Maidana,” Schaefer said. “If Maidana wins (on Saturday against DeMarcus Corley), we will see if we can put that together for December 11th. I don’t know yet if it would be in the U.S or in the U.K. The Khans are checking with Sky [T.V in the U.K] and I will be talking with HBO to see what makes most sense.”

It appears then (unless I’m guilty of wishful thinking) that Khan-Maidana is as close to being made as it ever has. Khan has reportedly said he’ll “shut Maidana’s mouth,” and we all know how much the Argentine banger wants the fight. It could well be that the end of 2010 gives us some of the year’s best action!

Marquez-Katsidis looks a pretty easy match to make because, as Schaefer said, Katsidis wants it so badly. Hopefully, the lightweight rumble will get signed, and after that the 140-pound WBA unification battle everyone is seemingly desperate to see will be made official also.
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Article posted on 26.08.2010

 

This is maybe the only time ever that I'll not be cheering full on for Marquez.

May the best man on the night win! :happy