Lefthook, It is obvious you are not a fan of the Kltischkos, but please stop making excuses. Bowe wasnt in shape for Donald? Its not like he was 260. How about Donalds speed made Bowe look bad, because that is what happened. I suppose Bowe wasnt in shape when Tubbs made him look bad as well. Not. It seems like fighters with range and jabs bothered Bowe. As I said before Golota did a paint job on Bowe. Not taking anyone seriously is an excuse often used after the fight. They way you write it, Lewis did not prepare for Rhaman. That is bull. Rhaman caught him with a hard right hand. End of story. So makes Vitali makes for his lack of lacks talent by staying in shape? Hilarious, as none of his opponents, including Lennox Lewis agrees with you. Remember, Vitali has never been behind on any card after 3 rounds in his entire ring career and no man has won more than two conssus rounds off him by all three judges. Sure he cant fight! As I pointed out before, its not like Vitali had Eddie Futch teaching him.
:rofl:rofl:rofl There it is again :happy Here's another stat for you, VITLAY has never lasted more than 6 rounds with an ATG heavyweight, much less beat one. Bowe went the distance 3 times with one, winning twice :deal
When did I say Bowe wasnt in shape for Donald? He beat the crap out of Donald for 12 rounds. Bowe was washed up against Golota, I dont care what you say. I dont hate the Klitschkos, I just dont think they're nearly as good as you do. I think they are good, not great fighters, who maintain their status by staying in great shape and being a lot better than the weak era they fight in. I think fighters like Bowe, Lewis, Tyson and Holyfield were far greater skilled.
Ah but you're forgetting the rules here.....winning a lopsided unanimous decision is only impressive when it's one of the brothers that does it - anyone else that does it "struggled" Tyson "struggled" with Mitch Green too, apparently, so did Lewis with Tua. You're wasting your time here, you're talking to someone who watched the Lewis and Byrd fights with their eyes closed, not to mention the Bowe/Holyfield fights.
Vitali is bigger, stronger and hit harder than any version of Golota ...the thing with Vitali is he is strong-minded and patient ..Vitali by TKO or UD..like I said Bowe was easy to hit
Does any fighter have more meaningless stats brought up to trump up their achievements than Vitali Klitschko? It's like when people refer to one of the gazillion new baseball statistical categories while others look as ancient dated stats like on-base percentage, ERA, and RBIs. Vitali's great at winning rounds, wonderful. How many FIGHTS has he won against the other top HWs of the time, guys who aren't overweight, old, or both? Vitali does have abilities. He has a good workrate, heavy hands, a nice sense of distance, and footwork to throw off his opponent's rhythm. I wouldn't necessarily favor him against Bowe, although I think it'd be a good fight. But my god do people try to make up for Vitali's weak resume by bringing up meaningless stats. "Hey, did you see his Compubox advantage over Lewis after 6 rounds?"
Bowe beat the crap out of Donald? Hardly. The fight was dull with little action. Bowe could not catch Donald, and Donald would not engage often.
And Lewis knows he was lucky as a warden in a women's prison with a fist full of pardons. He won on a cut. Lewis promised a re-match multiple times. There was none. He lacked the bottle. No re-match, no-rematch! Lewis knew he would likely lose the next time around. Still, even with a bad cut Vitali was up 4-2 on all the judges cards, with a tired Lewis crashing down on his stool just before the fight was called to a halt by the ring doctor. Lewis was tired, and not known for late round stoppages. Too bad we never saw the 7th round. We all saw how much engry Vitalu had left when he learned they stopped the fight. This fight proves Vitali could not only hang with an ATG, but better rock him with punches, and better him on a score card. Bowe was easily outgunned by Lewis. We have seen this thread 100 times. Take your act the the lounge.
You make it up as you go along don't you? Lewis was a couple off months of 38 years old ,weighing a career high 256 1/2lbs,when he fought Vitali. Lewis fought Morrison Tua Ruddock Tyson Holyfield x2 Grant Golota Briggs Mercer Tucker Bruno McCall x2 Rahman x2 Botha V Klitschko You want to compare Vitali's resume to this? Yet he lacked bottle?atsch And ,speaking of bottle , Vitali v Bryd , ring a bell ?
"I can't go on, it hurts too much." - The 244lbs, 6′ 7½″ Vitali, while 5-7 points ahead & only a few rounds to go, against the feather fisted, "Rapid Fire" who began his career at 169lbs.
Ok, I take issue with this if were going to drag Wlad in. Staying in great shape and being better than those around you is exacty what every successful Champion in history does. The 90s was a sporadic era for talent that people seem to judge as a whole rather than the actual parts it unfolded in. People complain about today, but Bowe cashed in on a title shot against Evander without even beating a single top 10 fighter. The division was that barren during Holyfield's reign and Tyson's troubles. Wlad was beating top 10 fighters like Byrd and McCline(was in line for a shot at Lewis at the time) on the way up, as well as destroying his fellow prospects and future top 5 guys like Barrett. The best young contenders during Bowe's brief reign, Mercer and Morrison dropped key losses to trial horses leaving Bowe to defend against the likes of Ferguson. Tyson was out of the picture and a Lewis fight wasn't made. By 94, Bowe's competition and performances were so poor he lost his ranking to ****ing Foreman and McCall. If it wasn't for Evander who matched up very poorly against him, Bowe's claims of superior competition would be non-existent.
Bowe fought the WBA top contender for a mandatory shot at the title. What else do you want from him? He still fought and beat a prime Holyfield, so that trumps anything the Klits have done and proved he was a capable fighter. Has either Klitschko shown the ability to sustain the type of fight Bowe and Holyfield fought? I dont think there is anything wrong with the way the Klits conduct themselves. They are professionals that take their occupation very seriously and stay in top shape year round, but again had they come up in the 80's and 90's they would not be dominate champions, they would fit in nicely into the top ten. You may not agree, but thats my opinion.
You spew that pile of biased nonsense and then tell me to take my act to the lounge? You say the same **** every single time about that Lewis fight, yet never mention the state of VITLAYS face when the fight was quite justifiably stopped, why is that? Hilarious that Lewis "lacked bottle" and you place a proven quitter and steroid cheat on such a pedestal, it's mind boggling. As for how engry VITALU was at the end of the fight, so ****ing what? I guess that means Judah won a moral victory over Tszyu then, right? atschnutatschpatsch