Salvador Sanchez versus Sandy Saddler

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  1. Manassa

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    I'm taking Sanchez.
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Where?
     
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  3. bb18

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    never saw a sanchez fight on tape and i hav thousands of fights on tape
     
  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    too close to call
     
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  5. Manassa

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    I've seen Sanchez undermined in this match up before, a couple of years ago, and wondered if anything had changed. I think Sanchez was no less a great than Saddler, if less proven.

    Sanchez, infact, was probably better. Where Saddler had strength, aggression and power, Sanchez had extra speed, good distance and a versatile skill set to deal with most obstructions. I don't think he hit too hard, probably a 6.5 to 7 out of 10, but definitely hard enough to keep Saddler at bay. Coupled with true fifteen round stamina, a sturdy jaw and light footwork, I reckon Sanchez would have enough - and if he wasn't as quick and agile as Pep, he at least made up for it with a slightly more formidable offence.
     
  6. burt bienstock

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    That's Funny.:good
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :goodyes, old people can be funny:lol::lol:
     
  8. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i like Sanchez

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYuN6YmH_jw[/ame]
     
  9. mcvey

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    Well we smell funny sometimes :good
     
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  10. Swarmer

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    sanchez imo, perfect answer to saddler's TWIN FISTED ASSAULT
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Manassa,

    Didn't Sanchez have issues with tall long fighters?
     
  12. natonic

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    Saddler was closer in height and reach to Danny Lopez, who Sanchez handled brilliantly, than say Patrick Ford. Ford was all of 5'10 with Hearns-like proportions for the weightclass. I think Sanchez's issues were more related to being extremely relaxed and confident of the eventual outcome of a fight. This led on a few occasions to Sanchez "fighting to the level" of his competiton.
    I think Sanchez could decision Saddler. I think Pep would be his foil.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Watching the recent thread " Pep, Saddler, How It Was ", I must admit to being surprised how efficiently Sandy cut off the ring and how quick his feet were, even making allowances for a slowed slightly past prime Pep
    .Old age had implanted an image in my brain , of a rangy preying mantis who ,made up for his lack of subtlety with tremendous power ,and strength.Saddler was more than that, he knew ring geometry and how to apply it. I pick him ,as the most proven, to win, Sanchez is too good a craftsman to be stopped ,but he goes down to a points defeat. imo
     
  14. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The impulse to surmise that Sanchez should come away with the decision, given his sturdy nature, is a fair one, yet we can all agree that he never fought a 'clutch n' thump' blaster like Saddler.

    The overall stylistic problems a fighter like Saddler may present could be numerous, although it's hard to envisage, not just based on imagination but because Saddler is a classic example of a product of his times; truth be told, a few decades too late. He was a fouling machine.

    Let's make it 1950 rules, either way it would be tremendous, but if Sanchez did manage to turn the trick, with movement and resolve having the last say in 15 rounds, it would not of been without Sandy haunting him in cruel ways.
     
  15. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What makes it dangerous to pick against Sanchez in a fantasy match against an opponent of Saddler's caliber is the way Sal stepped up his performance whenever facing a perceived threat, like Lopez and Gomez. In those three fights, he was on an entirely different level. Nelson was such a sub par showing for him, that the fact of how poorly he felt during their match was the main story of that fight in the three weeks before his death.

    Sal wasn't a bleeder, he had an iron chin when in peak condition, and the legs to keep him going for 15 rounds. Little Red's power was fabled, but Danny was also renowned for his endurance, off of the title win over Kotey and the classic with Mike Ayala, yet Sanchez drowned him late both times. Sal came on strong in the championship rounds against everybody.

    Too often, we discuss progressive training methods in terms of weight gaining and strength building. In terms of cardiovascular conditioning though, I don't think any boxer has surpassed Sanchez, who actually knew just how hard to box while sparring to get his heart rate at a level specified by his trainers. The use of that degree of biofeedback was unprecedented in boxing. In fact, John Madden called him the best cardiovascularly conditioned athlete he'd ever seen in any sport. He had the resting heart rate of a marathoner, allowing him to fully recover well within the 60 second rest period between rounds. (You never saw him open his mouth to gulp for air during his bouts, as Hagler often did.)

    He was reportedly interested in going to medical school after he retired, and apparently had something of a scientific interest in his own conditioning process. A fatal love of fast cars was his only vice. Physically, he maintained healthy habits between fights, rather than letting himself go.
     
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