Compubox is manipulated, should be canned

Compubox is in affect a behind-the-scenes amateur scoring system. People moan about scoring the amateurs, yet choose to listen to Compubox when it is exactly the same thing.

 

Are you kidding? Do you even work in technology? With that type of thinking we would still be living in the dark ages. :blood

You ever sit by home plate at a MLB game and see the camera? Do you know about facial recognition software?

Please educate yourself on technology and the directions we (humans) are moving with it. :bart

 

Difference is that Compubox doesn't ruin the fight per se right?

 

Yes its true, and usally those guys are drinking they are also on one side of the ring, not at all set up like the judges so how can they see all the shots especially if you have a south paw facing an orthodox fighter? its very hard to see what landed clean when you have that situation.

I was ring side for Tarver vs Johnson, next to the compu box guys and HBOs staff, it was clear that Johnson had dominated that fight and won it, when I got home and saw the re play on HBO, I was shocked at how they had the fight much closer than what everybody saw there, and the punch stats that they gave to Tarver it was ****ing disgusting.

 

True.

But the scoring method, people moan about how flawed it is in the am's [with good reason] yet always quote Compubox numbers as if they are correct, when it's the same system.

Or did people really think that a computer watched the fight and could identify whenever a punch was landed?

 

Not exactly the same thing in the amatuers you have five judges all with punch counters, and they are also located on three of the four sides of the ring.... as to where Compubox has two guys one side of the ring, so its similar in the sense of how its done but not exactly like the amatuers.

 

Yes, I work in technology and I understand how the technologies you reference work. There's no need to be an *******. I would be very excited to see something like this, but we're not there and I just don't see it. Facial recognition is interesting, but very limited and certainly doesn't involve motion.

 

Come on now...

What about glancing blows, partially blocked shots etc. Would the computer know the difference?

 

No a Computer wouldnt know the difference but ask yourself this, the guys running Compubox do they always know the difference? they obviously can make just as many errors there, a fighter can be hurt by a glancing blow...

Basicly they should do away with the compu box becuase its not accurate at all and in return it uses the network to basicly tell the fans who won or should have won the fight when likely they may have not won...

in other words IMO Compu Box is used to further support the outcome of the fight so if HBO has a HBO fighter who was in a close fight likely he will get the nod because they have compu box to use as proof..... its pretty ****ed up to be honest with you....

 

Compubox has nothing to do on how the judges score the fight stop moaning about **** that has nothing to do with the actual outcome of the fights.

 

Yes. It's just two guys, one of whom follows each boxer. He just pushes a button whenever a punch is thrown or lands.

 

That is very true. Too many times, and I think we have all done it, people reference Compubox as to why their fighter was "robbed" and complain about the Olympic scoring like you said.

I hadn't actually given it much thought. Maybe the best "compromise" is the way it is? More info, but meaningless.

 

I agree. Scrap compubox completely :good

 

Oh come on now? Dude you cats honestly don't know much about technology. Do you think "humans" can fly fighter jets? No. They can't. They need computer software to help them. Computers do more than you know.

What about them? If it is defined in the software sure. A computer "knows" what you tell it to "know". Most likely it won't be perfect but constantely getting better.

However this "knowing" is not just confined to computers. Do human judges "know"? Do the guys tallying shots for Compubox "know"? Do they "improve". Computers have the same "learning/programming" curve.

 

It is, but it's more than some dude, it's like 4 dudes. I'll break it down:

1. We have Fighter A and Fighter B
2. A punch is either a jab, or a power shot (anything other than a jab is considered a power shot with CompuBox)
3. We will call the guys pushing buttons "Button Pusher" (BP)

BP1 is pushing buttons every time Fighter A throws a punch, regardless if it lands. BP2 is pushing a button each time a punch thrown by Fighter A actually lands. There is a button for jabs, and a button for power shots. They can also specify where the punch lands (head, chest, abs, etc.)

BP3 is pushing buttons every time Fighter B throws a punch, regardless if it lands. BP4 is pushing a button each time a punch thrown by Fighter B actually lands (same as above).

All this is fed into the computer, which puts together the stats (that's where the computer comes in). The judges do not see these stats during the fight, so they are not used to determine who the judge gives the round to.

Also, just about everything else in the previous postings is true; there is a LOT of room for human error. There's blind spots, lots of movement, and screaming fans. You have to take the results with a grain of salt.