Technical Flaws in Current Fighters

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  1. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another quick point about Alexander, he needs to listen to Cunningham a lot more, when he does, he does well like against urango, Cunningham looked like he was losing his rag in the corner against Kotelnik.
     
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    Alexander is begging to be KTFO with his cocky in-and-out habits, and you're right that the warning grunts only make it worse. Bradley probably won't be the man to do it (although he could well win on points) but sooner or later someone will lay Alexander flat. Maidana, maybe?

    Also, (on the teachers topic) when you look at some of the best trainers in the world - Emanuel Steward, Freddie Roach, Nacho Beristain et al - tend to spread themselves very thin and therefore don't have as much 1-on-1 time to really develop an individual's talent and monitor their progress - relying a great deal on specialized assistant coaches and self-motivation on the fighter's part.

    Then you have the likes of Enzo Calzaghe, Adam Booth, and Nazim Richardson - who, while certainly not better than the above class, are more selective in who they take on and therefore more able to cultivate a personal relationship and be more of a "coach" then a "camp headmaster".
     
  3. jpab19

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    When Katsidis is coming forward he tends to have his hands down too low and also his head is too low, not that his chin is tucked in, but it's like he's looking at the opponent's stomach. He gets away with it a lot of the time because of his foot speed but it's why Casamayor and Diaz beat him.
     
  4. johna_83

    johna_83 31/10/2010 Full Member

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    hmmm, i think maidana's a bit too crude to beat alexander, much like urango. it'll take a boxing brain ala kotelnik to beat devon, and i agree bradley does it on points. in terms of walking onto a knockout, zab maybe?

    good point about the trainers, can't argue with any of that :good
     
  5. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its the way some coaches teach there kids to breathe while throwing a combo
     
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    Angulo's fans big flaw I have to watch it with the sound down most of the times.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    It seems highly counter-intuitive to me, but then I'm in no real position to second guess professional cornermen. :conf
     
  8. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you can see it works with young kids in the gym do it really helps them breath
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    For beginners, that makes sense but they should break kids of the habit before they start competing outside the gym. It has to waste some energy, maybe not enough to make a huge difference but...why not take the training wheels off once you can ride properly, you know?
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Quality thread, shame I've got here too late :lol:

    I agree with pretty much everything up to this point, good to see a good run of quality threads popping up on the British :good
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

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    I think a major reason why so many of the top professionals have such glaring flaws even at the top level is the state of the amateur game - i.e. it's current form.

    There is no encouragement to use the jab, body punches, uppercuts - because you simply don't get rewarded. There's very little means of punishing fighters for running, as the fights aren't scored on a round by round basis.

    Until they ditch the insane scoring system the lads coming out of the amateurs won't be as good.

    Plus, the deals that the top amateurs get in the UK and the States now means that there is bound to be a reduction in the motivation to succeed because they are well set financially, whereas the Eastern Euro guys probably get the purses of an average domestic prospect when they turn over.

    Looking at the lads coming out of say, the Olympics since the Roy Jones farce that led to the changes - they just aren't as good.

    1988 - Jones, Lewis, Bowe
    1992 - Casamayor, De La Hoya
    1996 - Mayweather, Wlad
    2000 - Harrision :lol:
    2004 - Ward, Dirrell
    2008 - not a right lot

    Compare to 1984 - Whitaker, Holyfield, Taylor, Breland etc etc, that team alone almost trumps everything else since then.
     
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    :good:good:goodBrill, as always
     
  13. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Youre not allowed in the Amatuers, to turm a man now. Stops the creativity of movement shame, everything is througth the front door.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    A mate of mine has been boxing in the ams for about a year, he's had five fights, he's 4-1 so far at a low level.

    His one loss came on a cut stoppage, tiny bit of blood from the nostril and a bust lip :patsch
     
  15. tony mush

    tony mush Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree with you ib dont have a clue y they dont