Quartey VS De La Hoya Round by round!

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  1. NullpointerAlex

    NullpointerAlex Active Member Full Member

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    Just watched it again (available on yuotube!), man, HBO were Hoya cheerleaders it's not even funny... :patsch DLH = Hoya, QT = Quartey, round scores are Quartey-DLH, so if QT wins, 10-9, if DLH wins, 9-10.

    Round 1: Quartey starts with body jab and then left hook which hits the target. Quartey is puttin the pressure. QT has a very good jab, out jabs DLH even if DLH puts in some good ones too. DLH fires a combo, which QT blocks. Blocks/dodges another combination, smiles at DLH, almost seems like he's amused by it. More jabbing, DLH backing up. Blood starts to trickle from DLH's nose. 30s left, DLH tries to steal the round, 4 hit combo, 1 hit the body and 3 hits the arms. More DLH combos, mostly unanswered, some hit, most are blocked. Counted maybe 5 hits and 20ish misses... Not enough to steal it IMHO... close, 10-9 QT

    Round 2: QT agressor. DLH's shots mostly blocked/miss, QT more agressive/precise, plus throws more... Good jabs both side, QT's bit better though. QT lands nice straight, DLH flurries but mostly on the arms, QT hits with hooks... 10-9 QT

    Round 3: Quartey stalks with the jab, DLH backs off, DLH tries to flurries but almost everything lands on the arms of Quartey. DLH tries to steal the round but gets caught with 2 good hooks. 10-9 QT

    Punches thru Rnd3
    DLH: Landed 48 Thrown 160 Pct 30%
    QT: Landed 48 Thrown 145 Pct 33%


    HBO: 9-10 QT, 10-9 QT, 9-10 QT, so 29-28 DLH (28-29 QT)

    Round 4: QT jabs, DLH backs off, 2m into round, not much happen... Fainly even, quite uneventful... HBO DLH L12, T34, 35%, vs QT L8, T30 27%. Close... 9-10 QT

    HBO 9-10 QT

    Merchant mentions that QT cannot win a decision in what amounts to DLH's hometown... (Las Vegas)

    Round 5: QT busier. DLH holding his ground now. QT jabs, DLH not throwing much.. When he goes for a combo, QT backs up and DLH hits air... 45s: Good trade, QT lands harder imho... QT lands solid right & L hook. QT wants to trade! DLH not really. 10-9 QT.

    HBO Jabs
    DLH L41, T142, 29%
    QT L43, T152, 27%


    Round 6: QT goes down from DLH left hook. QT gets up instantly. Walks to corner, lift his arms to show he's ok. Well, 8-10 QT... QT goes back to jabbing, hits DLH with good straight. QT starts to trade with DLH! Both lands good shots. DLH backs up... OOOooooh DLH GOES DOWN FROM A LEFT HOOK FROM QUARTEY!! DLH is back up fairly quick too. Looks stable on his legs. QT attacks, lands 3 good shots. DLH holds, QT tries to punch... Refs break them up. Ref calls a timeout and warns QT, guess because he punched while DLH was trying to hold him... sigh... Merchant mentions that it gives DLH a chance to recover... DLH backs up, QT aggressor again with jabs, hits DLH with straights/hooks, Merchant: "It was in the 6th round of the leonard hearns classic fight, that the fight broke out... In the 6hth round of this fight, the fight has broken out!" Lampley: "It's on now baby! It is on!!!". Lampley: "Hard left hooks for DLH!" Too bad they were all on the arms/gloves of QT... DLH left eye is starting to swell. DLH still aggressor. 10-9 QT.

    HBL Rnd6:
    DLH L23 T44 52%
    QT: L33 T66 52%


    Replay, merchant: "1st DLH knockdown, he was a little off balance after taking a right hand, comes in close, catches the left, doesn't appear to be hurt. Then later... A perfect left hand lands DLH on the seat of his pants"

    Merchant: "I have it 4 rounds to 2 for Quartey"

    Round 7: Ref calls timeout, too much vaseline on DLH's face. His corner man spreads the vaseline around without removing any, ref calls time in, commentators amused... Same as always, QT agressor, jabbing, DLH backing off (in usual DLH fashion...). Close round, DLH combos hit air as QT backs off, pretty even. In last 10s, DLH tries to steal the round, but QT catches him solidly while DLH misses 90% of his shots... 10-9 QT

    DLH corner tells DLH that he's fighting like he's got legs in the mud, he should use his legs...

    HBO Punches R7:
    DLH: L13 T48 27%
    QT: L21 T47 45%


    Commentators mentioning DLH wore discouraged look on his face...

    Round 8: DLH bounces for 15s, then goes back with legs in the mud... Same as always, QT agressor, jabs, straight/hook here and there, good defense, DLH almost passive, reluctant to punch... QT more active. Merchant: "Quartey is creating the impression that he's starting to dominate DLH, DLH needs to do somethign quick", then DLH lands nice quick right hand, then hook. Nice DLH flurry at the end. somewhat close 9-10 QT.

    Lederman gave it to Quartey. Total: 77 QT vs 75 DLH

    Round 9: Lampley at 1 min left "this round has been all QT jabs except for the exception of the two little DLH flurries". OOOoh! HUGE QT right hand lands flush on the chin of DLH! Good left/right DLH. DLH throws, QT dodges, big right hand by QT, another right hand... Lampley: "Going the last 3 rounds, O.DLH is in trouble". 10-9 QT

    HBO PS:
    DLH: L18 T47 38%
    QT: L22 T61 36%


    Lederman: last round 10-9 QT. 87-84 QT "QT won last 5 rounds in a row!"

    Round 10: Big DLH jab puts QT off balance and grimacing. Same as always QT jab... Good DLH punch. Bit less QT jab... Good DLH left hook. DLH a bit agressive, works well for him. I'll give him the round. 9-10 QT

    Lederman SS: 96-94 DLH
    QT corner's tells him he's well ahead.
    Merchant: "I think they'd make a sad mistake to assume anything like that here in Las Vegas, I don't care who the judges are..."


    Round 11: QT jabs, which has been the story all night... DLH is swollen... Late DLH flurry trying to steal the round... all miss/blocked... 10-9 QT

    HBO: Power punches
    DLH L75 T208 38%
    QT: L74 T160 46%


    DLH corner: We need this round!
    QT: corner: don't give him any chance! you control the fight, it's the last round. Keep both hands up!


    Final round: 5s into round, good DLH left hand. Oouch... Then DLH right hook misses but left hook hits the chin, down goes QT... QT starts to exhange like a mad man, but his punches are slower and slower... Andhe's right open.. gets hit bad.. Continues to throw like a half alive zombie, leaving himself 100% open, wasting all his energy... then he can barely stand up on his feet, having punched himself out and having got hit a lot... DLH looks fresher, more power in his punches, QT has punched himself out... He's dead tired now, barely standing up... Open for punches, still being the agressor, going in with his jabs... DLH backs up now, like he's done all fight, and QT is once agin the agressor... 20s left... DLH backs up, hasn't fired 2 punches in the last minute... And doesn't fire a punch in the last 45s... 10-8 DLH, maybe even 10-7 if QT didn't come back for the last half...

    Fighter over. QT runs to the corner with his hands in the air.

    Merchant says he had QT winning the fight, wondering how much the last round influences the final results... Foreman watched another fight and thought DLH was well ahead...

    Shish, next match, Trinidad vs Whitaker... !!! What a crazy night of boxing.

    [code]Lederman score card:
    DLH: 10 9 10 10 9 9 9 9 9 9 10 9 10 = 113
    QT: 9 10 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 9 10 8 = 114

    My scorecard:
    DLH: 9 9 9 10 9 9 9 10 9 10 9 10 = 112
    QT: 10 10 10 9 10 10 10 9 10 9 10 8 = 115[/code]Damn, even with the KOs, I had Quartey winning the fight...

    Official judges:
    Judge: Ken Morita 116-112
    Judge: John Keane 116-113
    Judge: Larry O'Connell 114-115

    Even with giving DLH the 1st and 3rd, which were somewhat close, I get 114-113 for DLH. So to get the official judge's scores of 116, you'd need to give two more rounds to DLH, which is quite ridiculous... Also looks like Morita gave a 10-7 for the last round for DLH, which doesn't take into consideration that QT came back and won the 2nd portion of the round...

    Sadly, Quartey got robbed IMHO. And if in the last round, he didn't exchange and punch himself out while he was hurt, he might have done it in a more convincing matter. Sad thing is, everybody remembers the end, that QT was hurt, and was all tired and wobbly, but damnit... He had that fight won! :|
     
  2. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You gave Quartey the first 3 rounds?
    That's ridiculous.

    It's so obvious from reading your asides where your going with that.
    Qaurtey didn't look great until after the 6th despite your historical fiction narrative.

    You could be a great scriptwriter though. Keep it up.
     
  3. NullpointerAlex

    NullpointerAlex Active Member Full Member

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    How is that ridiculous? Take the 1st round. DLH did flurry at the end, but it pretty much landed on his arms/gloves... DLH barely landed anything, Quartey made Oscar's nose bleed... DLH shots were all on the gloves, nothing DLH did really had any effectiveness... Crowd just sheered for anything DLH did, but really, most of what he did was rather ineffective.

    DLH only gets rolling in the last 35s:
    Throws 4 punch combo, 1st land, other 3 are on the arms.
    Then a straight to QT's face, but that's on the gloves, then a body shot which hits.
    Then it's 3 shots on the gloves and two missed uppercuts which hit nothing but air.
    Then two body shots while Quartey has his elbows tucked next to his body and 2 shots on the glove.
    Then another 3 punch combination where DLH his the gloves and the air...

    The shots that miss or hit the gloves aren't supposed to be counted as hits. If you take the remainder of the round, which QT was the agressor, hit DLH, snapped his head back, made his nose bleed, then it can easily be a Quartey round imho. Surely, can get wow'd by the combination and speed of DLH, but did the punches land and did they do any damage?

    It's pretty much what DLH always does, he doesn't do much for 80% of the round, and tries to steal the round at the end with a couple of flurries. You don't HAVE to give the round if a fighter TRIES to steal the round at the end... Sure, DLH threw like 20 punches in the last 30s, but how many landed? How many were on the arms/gloves? How many hit hair? How many really connected? What happened the rest of the round?
     
  4. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Life is a *****, deal with it and stop crying.
     
  5. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    it was a fairly close fight and I had it about even going into the 12th. Oscar won the 12th and made the difference. Your making it sound as if Quarte dominated Oscar with the jab which he didn't, but it was a great jab nonetheless and it was Ike's primary weapon on Oscar, but had Ike done what Oscar did in the 12th he should of won. He knew beforehand he was in Oscar's turf anyways he had to win big, but if the fight was to of have taken place anywhere Oscar showed he wanted it more with that 12th round barrage. Close fight, but Oscar won that one.
     
  6. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some people cant just let it go
     
  7. NullpointerAlex

    NullpointerAlex Active Member Full Member

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    Even if you reverse the 12th round, make DLH get caught, go down and Quartey winning the round, QT likely wouldn't have won:

    Official judges:
    Judge: Ken Morita 116-112
    Judge: John Keane 116-113
    Judge: Larry O'Connell 114-115

    becomes:
    Official judges:
    Judge: Ken Morita 114-114
    Judge: John Keane 114-115 (114-114)
    Judge: Larry O'Connell 112-117

    But most likely 2nd judge would have scored it 114-114 since he wouldn't have given 10-7 round to Quartey, like he seemed to do for Hoya since no other round deserved a 10-8 without KO... so it would have been a majority draw, which would have been an even worst travesty in some ways... Besides, I don't think you can say that Oscar wanted it more, Quartey's last round shown that he wanted it like nobody's business, even hurt he wouldn't give an inch to Oscar and was willing to go shot for shot, he gave one for everyone Oscar gave, and Quartey was hurt... Then that was only the 1st half of the final round, for the 2nd half, Quartey once again became the aggressor, like he was pretty much the entire fight... Not to mention that Oscar pretty much ran all night...

    Well that's what it looked like to me... Jab, aggression, good defense (besides last round, he didn't take much damage during the fight, which can't be said for DLH...) had won him the fight...

    HBO's commentators, except Foreman for some reason, all seemed to agree that QT was winning going in the last round, Lederman also had QT winning even with the 12th round knockdown...
     
  8. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I also had it 115-112 for Ike. Exciting 6th round and 12th round, the rest of the fight was blah. Nice R-B-R, you should do more of these.
     
  9. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    MY card is almost exactly the same Ike won that fight, but this is an HBO fighter in DLH we are talking about, as was the case in Castillo vs Mayweather 1
     
  10. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry The Reverse Somersault! Full Member

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    Nice round by round. For me it's honestly too long since i last saw the fight to complain. Back then i seem to remember having DLH winning by a point or so.. Good fight. One of the better De La Hoya fights.

    But honestly if you're looking for a real robbery with De La Hoya, go back and do a round by round with his fight against Sturm. Now that's a robbery.
     
  11. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    The sturm fight wasnt exactly a robbery considering Oscar swept nearly the first half of the fight, with Sturm looking to block and just wait until the later rounds....
    I am sorry but when your a no name like Sturm was you surely cant expect you can fly out to Vegas and just simply defend against a house hold name like Oscar De La Hoya especially considering that the Hopkins DLH fight was ready to go...
    Sturm could have taken control of that fight much earlier but waiting it out a few rounds is what costed him, its not like Oscar took it from Sturm its more less that sturm gave it to Oscar.
     
  12. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1) DLH
    2) Quartey
    3) DLH
    4) DLH
    5) Quartey
    6) Quartey
    7) Quartey
    8) Quartey
    9) Quartey
    10)DLH
    11)Either way
    12)DLH

    Quartey was outlanded by DLH in rounds 1, 3 and 4, and that's why I gave him those rounds.
     
  13. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar landed more punches and knocked quartey down more. Going into the last round I had Oscar down by one point but he pulled it out like a true champion does. If you had Oscar down by 2 points going into that final round, that's fine. But in no way Oscar was down by 3-4 rounds going into that round. Gimme a break.
     
  14. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed on all accounts. Quartey was no robbery. Sturm was
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have you EVER seen a guy get knocked down more, out punched, and MURDERED and knocked down like that in the final round and still actually win a fight? lol I haven't