Which Klitschko would have a better chance against Ali??

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  1. ron u.k.

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    :huh Ali's the most athletic heavyweight who ever laced on the gloves you have watched his fights i gather? They would hunt him down and destroy him??!! who have the Klits ever hunted down? They are a couple of the most cautious heavyweight champions ever.
    It took Wlad 12 rounds to take out the 209 pound Eddie Chambers,the 219 Ibragimov went the distance both not bigger men than Ali and infinitely less talented.
    Even tough guy Vitali doesn't exactly go out there and take it to his opponents both of them simply are very wary of engaging and taking chances against even the most limited and smaller opponents.
    I'm no Klit hater you can't dismiss these guys against anyone but beat or take out Ali? Do me a favour he would set them more problems to try to work out than all there opponents they've faced put together.
     
  2. ron u.k.

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    One of the biggest myths in boxing.The glove was already damaged Dundee just opened it up a little more.Also Ali only got about another 5 seconds,the total time between the rounds was 65 seconds,watch it and time it on the films.
     
  3. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Ali would definitely try and fight Wlad though, it is not his style to run away like ibragimov did.

    Chambers is a very very good fighter who had never been stopped. Wlad knocked him out cold. Wlad also knocked ray Austin out early. He has a lot of pre 6 rd KO's.

    I have never seen a good boxer out box wlad. There is one way to beat wlad that I have seen and Ali is not that type of fighter. This style match up favors Wlad. I dont see why people cant see that. Ali is not a big puncher.

    The 1st chris Byrd fight when byrd was in his prime is testamant to how easily wlad handles speedy boxers. Alis hand speed wasnt that fantastic, it was good. His footwork was fantastic.

    The day I see wlad out boxed I will concede the point. Until then, i think this match up froma styles perspective favors Wlad.
     
  4. madballster

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    Mildenberger was on the level of Sosnowski. Euro champ, B level contender.
     
  5. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where's the none of the above option ? :think
     
  6. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali, would stick and move and bust up those robots. Seriously, Ali is in an elite class by himself. The Klits couldn't beat some of Ali's opponents.
     
  7. TG1

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    Neither of them. They are too slow and predictable. Both would be comfortably outpointed!

    No bias included but Ali's talent and speed of foot/ hand would make them both look like dog ****.
     
  8. ron u.k.

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    With due respect have you seen much of Ali's fights? What is this way to beat Wlad? The pre '70 Ali is simply too fast and mobile and please don't underestimate Ali's punching power.Ali could come in at angles unleash rapier fast combinations and get out of there.He knocked out granite chinned fighters like Foreman and Bonavena and hurt another granite jawed fighter in Liston in their 1st fight all much more rugged and tough fighters than Wlad.Also if it ever got into a slugfest and became a battle of who had the biggest heart well there's only one conclusion you could draw there.
     
  9. TG1

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    Ali was 6 ft 3 and had an almost identical reach to both brothers. If anyone thinks three or four inches in height and a few pounds matter than much when you have huge advantages in speed and athletecism - then you're ****in stupid!

    Ali would look weak by comparison? Bull****!
     
  10. madballster

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  11. jpab19

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    Forward that about 3 seconds Ali has leaned back away from the jab and landed a playfull straight right that acidentally KO's Wlad.
     
  12. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I'd consider Klitschkos and Lewis to be the toughest style match ups for Ali. I also think they'd all make extraordinary fights, but I wouldn't like to pick the outcomes
     
  13. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Yes, they looked ponderous against opponents that refused to engage. Then again, look what Wlad did to Chambers in just one round when he decided to take his foot off the brake. When Wlad is in 'counter' mode he is slow and plodding, but he can be extremal mobile and aggressive under different circumstances.
    Wlad can counter punch, can deter offense with his jab (or even the thought of the jab) and has one of the stingiest defenses of any HW. Wlad isn't going to mentally fatigue against Ali either.

    This is not to say that Ali doesn't have advantages again Wlad, it just that it's not cut/dry like so many like to think.
     
  14. ballznall

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    Both beat clay....remember his "prime" was before 1967........the ali that fought in 70s would have been beaten at 205-215.....ali in 78-79 destroyed......like holmes said "Overrated"..........
     
  15. ron u.k.

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    Ali regularily weighed over 220 pounds in his comeback he was not some kind of minnow.Well that's a bold pick saying the Ali of '78 and '79 and probably in the 1st stages of Parkinsons being "destroyed" by Wlad.It should be noted though that just a year or so earlier in '77 he took the best punches of arguably the hardest hitting heavy in history in Earnie Shavers and still came through.Even slowed down in '74 he still was able to take the best of a monster like Foreman then knock him out.Overrated? Give yourself a break you haven't a clue what you're talking about.