Pacquiao vs. Margarito

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  1. digregorio1.

    digregorio1. Active Member Full Member

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    i dont get how different states have different rules in the U.S..
     
  2. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I used to think that, but not now. He'd never been beaten up in sparring before the Mosley fight. He was struggling with the weight, getting hurt by guys he'd have beaten senseless before and generally looking crap. It's possible his trainer thought that was the answer.

    I think he just had Cotto's kryptonite - pressure and workrate. But Cotto's inability to clinch caused him to eat a lot of shots he didn't have to.
     
  3. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I think that the wraps for the Cotto fight were supplied by the local commission and their application fully supervised....couldn't give you a source though :thumbsup
     
  4. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I wouldn't take that at face value, since the source was Nevada's commission and Jay Nady of all people. Not exactly an unbiased one. But there's a lot of conflict between the accounts. Particularly since some say Evangelista Cotto was in the room during wrapping and he says he wasn't.

    Plus, it seems that while the wraps are supplied by the NSAC, the pads are not.

    The whole thing's a bit of a mess, but hey... what's done is done. I like Cotto's attitude: he just thinks he had a really good night.
     
  5. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I said "taste his power" because that's what he did. He stood there and baited Cotto, took it as if to say "c'mon i can take your shots". This was a major turning point in the fight once Cotto couldn't seriously dent him.

    At least thats what it looked like to me and Pacquiao admitted as much in the post fight interview or press conference IIRC. I think he actually said "I wanted to taste his power and see what he had" or words to that effect.
     
  6. dftaylor

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    I think it might have been the uppercut/hook that landed in the fourth, but I see what you mean. I remember him saying that in the post-fight presser, but he said more in the build up to fighting Clottey and that Cotto had been hurting him.

    Cotto just made some fundamental errors - abandoning his jab, standing in front of a faster fighter and ducking way too low. And, if he'd kept his composure and kept landing those shots he did early on, Pac wouldn't have been doing as well later on.

    But the guy's a phenom whichever way you look at it. He's a tough little ******* to take those Cotto bodyshots and keep coming.
     
  7. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Yep, why risk it against Old man Shane when he's favoured to win and not against Cotto in his biggest fight in which he's the underdog. Having said that though he didn't have concrete in his chin...I saw people like Cintron hit him with a baseball ball and he didn't even blink, although hitting someone with bricks will probabily take the sting of their punches.
     
  8. BIG WORM

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    I cant see anything other than Pacquiao dancing around Marg all night... Margarito got shown up against a slick boxer in Mosley.... Hes gonna be a walking punch bag i feel...

    Pacs too quick man
     
  9. JonOli

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    Pacman pts for me.
     
  10. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Anybody willing to argue for a Margarito win? :think
     
  11. D-MAC

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    Cheese Time:

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  12. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I have to say this fight makes no sense to me what so ever. You put a guy who has been accused of cheating (however ridiculous those accusations) in with a real cheat who has a lot of question marks over what he has left. Okay, if Margarito had been doing his thing at 154 then I would understand but he hasn’t been. I also think that the catch weight is in Margarito’s favor...let’s remember he is a huge welterweight and he was off for a year so making 147 would be a little tough for him. So they are letting him come in at 150, which is ideal for Margarito right now. 150 does not do Manny that many favours IMO as he barely comes in over 145. This seems to have been done for Margarito which is really puzzling to me. Manny is the A side of this fight, they should have made Margarito make 147 because nobody could complain as Margarito has been a career welter thus far.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    And ironically if they had made Margarito get down to 147 there'd be little complaining about belt chasing..... including from me.

    Strange sport this.... rugby is much less complicated :D
     
  14. Mr. V.I.P.

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    If this was at 154 Margarito stands a much better chance. But Freedie the joke coach roach will need a catchweight against Margarito. Would love to see Margarito fight like he did with Cotto Pac cant fight going backwards
     
  15. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Well, Margarito won't have his little helpers like had against Miguel Angel and to say Pacquiao can't fight backwards? you might've had a case when this kid was straight off the Manila streets, but he's a more complete fighter now and has improve immeasurebly from that fast, somewhat predictable brawler of the early years, so sorry my friend but that dog won't hunt!