Jimmy Ellis of '68 vs. Ezzard Charles of 1950.

Come on everyone lets be real - fair enough in giving due to Ellis - but come on Ez Charles was literally one of the best fighters ever pound for pound - ONE OF THE BEST EVER POUND FOR POUND PERIOD - Ellis wasn't even close to being that good - it amazes me how so many people get carried away with things like this -

legendary trainer Ray Arcel said of Charles : "The word 'great' is misused. Charles was naturally great. When Charles was a middleweight, I don't even know if even Ray Robinson could have beaten him."

Arcel would've scoffed at the idea of Ellis having any chance to beat Ezz.

 

See where you're thinkin from - and yeah Ellis was a good boxer but come on do you think Ellis would've twice beaten the great Charley Burley?? Not knocking Ellis but he really wasn't that great in his own era really - Frazier did a number on him and blasted him out.

PS MR Bill - could you give me some advice on how to attach pictures/photos to responses - I have no idea how to do it - was trying to do it on an earlier thread but couldn't figure out how?? Your assistance with this would be very much appreciated

 

Charles was simply better but Ellis was very tough, highly under rated and game as hell ..

 

What is it with you in Charles and "aggresive"?? atsch

Charles was a very slick fast stick and move defensive counterpuncher. That was his style. He was not some straight forward brawler, like you love to imply


Charles wins a wide decision here..Charles skillset was in a different class. His handspeed was also much greater. I personally don't see how Ellis is going to outpoint him. Charles superior ring science and flurry of lightning hooks and long rights are going to find their target.

 

...ezzard charles was not in his prime in 1950...he was past it when he foiught louis....but he was still a great fighter and i can't see ellis beating him..

 

charles wins this.he's my top light heavy of all time and ellis would be out of depth against him.

 

..mrbill...okay...how did he look compared to when he was 171 or 175...i presume you have seen him fight at those weights..also, did yoiu see him fight joe baksi when the official weigh in had him at over 175 when he was actually a few pounds lighter. i've never seen even home made films of that fight, so i'm interested in your comments...

thanks

 

Don't underestimate Albinored guys..a great man. He was part of Ezzard Charles entourage. Hopefully if your nice enough, you can squirm out some inside information from ole Jaclem.