Lennox Lewis 1997 vs Muhammad Ali 1967

But he wasn't was he? which is exactly the point... he also didn't have the training facilities Lewis had.
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His great left jab and over hand right was as slow as a 3 legged dog in quick sand... have you actually watched any footage of Liston?

 

I ma not a big fan of this argument.
You have to take a fighter as they are to compare them if not it just turns into adding this and that.

 

I think Ali wins a decision. His speed and movement would trouble Lewis big time.

 

I favor Lewis to win.

Ali has the edges in speed and durability, but Lewis has the edge in every other department. Also, Lewis is not exactly slow, so coupled with his timing, reach and strategy, he would be able to handle Ali's speed. Then, there is the durability. I think Lewis can hurt Ali more than Ali can hurt Lewis, this due to Lewis' tremendous power vs Ali's medium power.

Against Lewis, Ali would have to be the aggressor, a tactic he was not very good at. While Ali likes to float around and use a flicking jab to keep opponents away, he can't do that as well as he's used to against Lewis, because Lewis can jab with him, and Lewis jab is longer and heavier. Ali will have some success on the outside, but not enough. So, Ali is forced to come forward. On the inside, Ali is pretty useless. Ali likes to lean on his opponents neck...not going to happen against the larger more powerful Lennox Lewis. If Ali tries that, he'd get mauled with uppercuts and slammed in the body...all while Lewis is leaning on him!

Ali can take a beating, so he probably lasts the distance, but Lewis puts enough hurt on him that he wins by decision.

 

ali outboxes lennox no doubt in my mind.

 

well then why don't we put lewis in the 70s without the modern nutrition or any of that
he would be much smaller
that's the problem with comparing eras

 

Lewis never really fought a mobile boxer of substance, always kind of a big question mark for him.

What we do know is that Terrell and Liston had great jabs they couldn't touch Ali with. Ali should decision him.

 

they were slow but potent.

 

I'm a big fan of both fighters but Lewis is my favourite heavyweight of all time. But I have always favoured Ali in this match up. It would not be easy for Ali as Lewis head to head is one of the best heavyweights ever.

I think Ali's speed, agility, jab and durability will be the deciding factors in this match up. Ali has proven he has one of the best chin's of any heavyweight and as hard as Lewis hits I can't see him being able to stop prime Ali. Though I can see Lewis hitting hard enough and often enough to possibly drop Ali.

Lewis has shown against Bruno and Mercer that he could be out jabbed and if they could do it Ali could do it. Ali's speed and footwork would unable him to get in and out and score and win rounds. Lewis' size, power, strength and good boxing skills would of course give Ali problems but not enough to stop Ali or earn him a points decision.

I see Ali winning the early rounds with his speed, jab and movement. But Lewis is able to land his big punches now and again and his size and strength would wear down Ali late in the fight. Ali would have some rough moments in the second half of the fight but he has shown tremendous heart throughout his career and he survives to earn a competitive but clear decision.

 

lol Liston, slow?

Why? Because he couldnt catch Ali, who happened to put on one of the greatest boxing performances of all time?

Liston at least got Ali once flush with a jab in the fight. Ali said it stunned him, and if the bell hadn't rang he woulda been in trouble. From a jab.

And unless your Ali on his greatest night, you WILL be taking shots from Liston. The metal pole jab, the powerful hooks, the devastating uppercuts. And I don't care who the boxer is, he will not be able to stand them for too long. Lennox would get clobbered by Liston. Not to mention his freakish reach
Liston has to be the most underrated fighter in the world.

Oh and if Foreman said Lennox was the best fighter, then Dundee's word is just as good, if not better, when he says Liston was much FASTER then Tyson

 

Ali.

Lewis isn't a swarmer, nor is he a small super technical fighter. These are the type of fighters that trouble Ali, I really don't give Lewis too much of a chance here.

Nothing against Lewis, I rate him in my top 5. But 1967 Ali is clearly the best heavyweight I've ever seen (imo :hey)
Lewis gets over rated a little h2h I think, his fights with Mercer and especially Holyfield need to be looked at more closely.

 

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It would be the opposite, if anything.

A lot gets made of Tyson and Foreman having stamina problems but it gets overlooked with Lewis for some reason. He did NOT have great stamina.

Ali is too great an athlete and simply too strong to allow Lennox to manhandle him and wear him out.

 

Solid post but saying Liston is faster than Tyson is ******ed.

 

I look at photos of the two (when Ali is diagnosed with parkensions syndrome, so his back wasn't straight) and Ali doesn't look that small compared to Lennox. He's only a 1 or 2 inches shorter. Ali isn't going to be man handled by Lennox especially if he has already faced brutes like Foreman and Liston