David Haye Video Update

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TeflonDom, Sep 1, 2010.


  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    There's no other German boxing network that could possibly match RTL. Why did Haye ask for 50-50 of "everything" all those months when he *KNEW* he'd have to work with RTL in Germany? Then he is offered 50-50 and suddenly it's not good enough.
     
  2. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You honestly think Wlad Klitschko has fought anyone significantly better than Valuev?

    Give me a break. Haye's had 3 pro fights at heavyweight. Wlad's had 40
     
  3. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't know that.... Sky sports are the biggest sports channel in the UK but Setanta regularly used to outbid them for big fights. You don't know **** and are twisting things to suit your argument
     
  4. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    However you try and paint the brothers K, they have a long glorious history of trying to con opponents out of money, and this is not really any different.

    The problem here is that Haye is actually the draw. Not them. That guy's making $4-5 million in the ring against Valuev.
     
  5. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Haye has humiliated himself and is to stupid to know it.
     
  6. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was not! I've been reading in the UK media that the Klitschkos wanted ALL of the UK money for months.
     
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  8. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is the point that all these people are missing, we don't know that. If we shopped around to get the biggest deal then we would know, which was all haye was saying. But because Wlad tied to a network deal he said no. So haye says ok well lets shop around and lets get your network to match anything we could possibly have made. Wlad said no. So haye says ok, why don't you keep your RTL money and i keep my UK money. Wlad said no.

    Now even the greedy floyd mayweather gave ricky hatton all the UK PPV money, so why cant Wlad do the same thing?:think
     
  9. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he did beat Chagaev who beat Valuev before.

    But the point is. Mayweather was better than Hatton but Hatton was a big draw in the fight and UK PPV generates a lot of wonger so was respected at the negotiating table. Same goes for Haye that he is a big draw in the UK and the UK will generate huge money which is why Wlad won't settle with not having a slice of that pie.
     
  10. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a pretty simple scenario.

    Wlad refuses to turn his back on RTL, as they pay him heaps of money, to take mandatory defences, no matter who he's fighting.

    Haye and Golden Boy quite obviously received much bigger offers for this fight from the US networks, I imagine.

    Haye stated that if Wlad was insisting on taking his paycheck from RTL (basically 100% of the German money) then he wanted 100% of the UK money (similar to the Hatton fight).

    Klitschko refused, for the same reason he always does - he has a long history of only taking fights if he gets ridiculously good terms.
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well let me tell you something. Haye was looking for a reason to make the talks with Wlad fail and he found it in the RTL contract. When you look for a reason to make a deal fail you can always find it.

    Look here's my take on things, just an opinion obviously.

    Haye is locked into a promotional deal with Sauerland. They take a % cut of total revenues from Haye for another 2 fights. If Haye agreed to a fight with Wlad for "only" 50% of total revenues it would look like this from Haye's end:

    Wlad - 50% (Wlad is his own promoter)
    Sauerland - 5% (because they have options on Haye)
    Haye - 45% (50% minus 5% to Sauerland)

    Haye would end up getting the smaller purse. Maybe he didn't like that too much, that's maybe why he kept asking Wlad to pay him more than 50% so that *AFTER* Sauerland both camps keep 50%.

    My guess is once Haye rids himself of Sauerland (2 more options to go) then magically Haye will have no problems with RTL and will happily fight for 50-50.
     
  12. MrWonderful

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    The problem is that Haye is the big draw in the fight, period.

    He deserves the UK money, in the same way HAtton deserved it against Mayweather.

    Klitschko sells nothing outside of Germany. All of the UK and global money will be Haye.

    You know, I live in the UK, and the only time I've ever seen a Klitschko fight on TV, was years ago - and it was on free TV.
     
  13. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If this fight generates as much in the UK as Hatton v Mayweather did (which being a HW Unification fight is more than likely) Haye's UK fans tuning in could generate upward of 3 times the amount RTL pay for most of Wlads fights... is it wrong of Haye to want Wlad to bring a bigger slice of finances to the table? Everyone in the UK will be paying to watch Haye not Wlad and will generate more money than Wlads RTL contract so i think Haye is well within his right s to say 'go and get a better deal from your tv company' othewrwise it's Haye and his fans generating most of the revenue and both fighters taking an equal slice
     
  14. MrWonderful

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    It's also a very good way for Wlad to make sure the fight fails.

    His negotiating stance is always "any guy can fight me as long as they basically agree to give me all of the money".
     
  15. Serenata

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    To get things straight again. Wlad is the champ, Haye is a beltholder.
    The champ offeres a 50/50 split over everyting and Haye rejectes that.
    Simple as that.

    ...just for the Hayeniacs to remember...