Who's to blame Wlad or Haye?

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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    No, you're going the wrong direction with this, you're close but looking in the wrong corner... :D
    I'm not going to tell it unless you guess it, because it will probably influence the vote.
     
  2. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    You want to see what British fans blame Haye and not Wlad:bbb
     
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Getting warmer again... :good
    I don't know if you keep on guessing, but from now I only respond if you're getting closer! :D
     
  4. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    :lol: ive lost interest, im off to get some lunch.:bart
     
  5. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Not even true if you attribute 100% of the British PPV to Haye, which is bull**** by itself because the draw is a matchup between Haye and Klitschko, not Haye's oiled up titties.

    In UK PPV, Haye fighting Harrison would make how much? Haye fighting Wladimir would make how much? Why is there a difference?

    I'll answer, because the British fans aren't that moronic. They want to see him fight a Klitschko. The draw is the fight between them, not Haye on his own.
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Considering how much Haye talk im going to blame him but not totally because im sure the Klitchkos are no saints in all this ..
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    :good enjoy your meal ;)
     
  8. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    its haye's fault because he's demanding too much. its one of a few things. he's either realy trying to avoid the fight and just coming up with excuses so fans wont call him a cowerd. both fighters are building the bout to generate more interest and therefore more money. haye realy thinks he's worth more than half the tv rights and thinks he can control wlad, vlad is just making impossible demands which haye wont follow. im thinking its probablya mix of 2 things. haye doesnt realy want the bout right now so he's making the demands unrealistic. i think he knows vlad is more big time so all this talk of haye being the bigger draw is crap.
     
  9. bkamins

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    How so? Haye's last bout against John Ruiz got 500,000 buys on Skybox. It is reliably estimated that a unification bout against Wlad would hit 1 million buys. Who do you think would be responsible for a doubling of the buys. Also, Wlad has access to much larger stadiums in Germany with higher potential gates. Obviously, Wlad brings more money to the table.
     
  10. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's always been about the PPV, which is why these two may never fight. Haye wants to keep all of the money Skybox for which he earn 5 pounds per buy. Unification would and Wlad would probably double the 500 K buys of the last fight, meaning Haye would earn 5 million pounds just from pay per view. Wlad has a fixed contract with German TV where he earns 3 million each fight. So, if everything else were split, Haye would earn 2 million more. He would benefit from unification, Wlad would not. It is a throughly unequal and unreasonable contract, even without considering the fact that Wlad is the top fighter in the division with 8 title defenses and Haye has all of one defense.
     
  11. CHEF

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    so after watching the video..
    so haye says Wlads TV contract was not enough cash so it sounds like haye wanted rtl to pay there share then have wlad pay in the rest to equal the best German tv offer. So haye wants Wlad to put "cash out of pocket" WOW.... so now hayes excuse is.."I dont like Wlads german TV contract". Its clear as Day.. haye is about CASH and CASH only

    what is it with Haye and contracts?... not only wont he fight when a contract is presented to him... he wont fight because of a contract his opponent has ith there own TV station:patsch:patsch...
     
  12. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    really. So haye has his own "International TV deal" that he is putting in the pot?
     
  13. No Fear

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    Wlad needs to get his priorities in order.

    If it makes money, it makes sense.

    As Wlad's television contact is more important to him than money, a unification fight and ultimately his legacy, then the fight won't go ahead.
     
  14. No Fear

    No Fear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When Wlad said, 'David, I'm calling you out, man to man' did he really mean, 'David, I'm calling you out, television network and man to man'?
     
  15. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, sounded smth like that... he and most of people on these board don't understand that there is NO bigger money in Germany and the money they get from RTL. Just a superficial knowledge of the German TV market will tell you that the deal they have with RTL is gigantic.

    On the other hand, I can understand Haye. He can fight Fraudlies of this world and earn a fortune without risking too much. Either K would be way too risky...I'd also like a pension fund if I'd fight Ks at his place.