***Best Heavyweights in a slugfest/Brawl***

Using size and weight advantages beacuse at 6"1 the Galveston Giant was huge.

 

He certainly was huge against some of his opponents, except of course for his opponents that were much bigger than him, or the ones that were the same size as him. Johnson overpowered everybody including the bigger fighters that he fought. Brawling johnson seemed to play right into his hands, although he didnt really brawl like a typical brawler, in that he probably had the best defence of any brawler and not the same workrate and offensive mentality of other great brawlers, but his brawling style was surely effective.

 

Shitttt I forgot Sam Langford, Jeeezzzzzz

 

I do appriciate against his competition his defence was great and ahead of his time. I jsut wonder if he would be able to clinch succesfuly with more recent fighters who have great strength.

 

It is a good question, because i do believe that todays training methods are so focused on Strength that todays fighters are stronger than any other period in history, although Skill and other qualities are a different story. But saying all that, when i think of the best clinches of modern times, i think of someone like Muhammed Ali, who could manhandle bigger and seemingly stronger fighters despite being statistically smaller. Even Someone like Ruiz was good in the clinches against bigger fighters. I think that Jack Johnson was good enough in the clinches against bigger fighters to suggest that he would be still good in clinches today. And when he opened up in a brawl, it is often forgotten that he could really hit as well. He is so hard to hit in a brawl (watch the way he tucks his head in and is always neutralising the offence) that i think that he could outbrawl even the modern superheavyweight brawlers. He certainly didnt have any real trouble with superheavyweight Willard until fatigue set in at a distance which was well over anything he would have to go in todays environment.

 

Yeah I thought that might have been an accidental ommission. Would have been a Pretty big call to leave him out!

 

Good read. I dont realy know masses about him , i jusy find it hard to think of him out clinching a superHW like Lewis, Bowe or Wlad.

 

Although Lewis was very impressive in these fights, In retrospect Golota was stopped early many times after and Grant very suspect. Out of the 3 Botha has shown to be the most solid but he was flat KO'd by Tyson, no shame. I think Botha was hurt here and on shaky Legs much like the way McCall had Lewis teetering. Lewis IMO was one of the best offensive fighter, he had some of the best offensive skills behind Joe Louis. The negatives with Lewis is that he never Ko'd a man after the 8th rd. and never recovered from a KD

 

Why isn't Ali getting a mention?

 

Lewis was a great clinch fighter, certainly one of the best. But he controlled distance and avoided slugging. His holding and hitting was a way of avoiding brawls at close quarters. Not an ideal nomination for a list like this, let alone a top 3.

 

Bert Cooper isn't among the greatest but at least deserves mentioning here. More then a few fighters paid for going toe to toe with him.

 

Holding and hitting was his way of brawling , slugging it out whilst neutralising the opponents brawling ability.

 

And jerking off is exactly the same as having sex.

 

Only if you do it properly.:hey