Who's to blame Wlad or Haye?

Best post in thread! Aren't you a Brit? Other Brits should take note of how logical this post is. :deal

 

I'm not a big Wlad fan nor do I have anything against English fighters, however I do blame Haye for the fight not happening.

 

I don't hate Brits at all but you countrymen are doing you all no favor by siding with Haye. I can tell you that almost no one in the USA knows who the **** David Haye is.

 

Lennox Lewis was a great fighter but Haye is just a pretender.

 

Originally Posted by RDJ
Not even true if you attribute 100% of the British PPV to Haye, which is bull**** by itself because the draw is a matchup between Haye and Klitschko, not Haye's oiled up titties.

In UK PPV, Haye fighting Harrison would make how much? Haye fighting Wladimir would make how much? Why is there a difference?

I'll answer, because the British fans aren't that moronic. They want to see him fight a Klitschko. The draw is the fight between them, not Haye on his own.



This is true but it works the other way around...


In Germany PPV, Klitschkos fighting Briggs/Peter would make how much? Haye fighting Wladimir/vitali would make how much? Why is there a difference?

I'll answer, because the German fans aren't that moronic. They want to see them fight a Haye. The draw is the fight between them, not Klitschko on his own.


They are both to blame in my opinion if either wanted the fight enough it would happen. The simple fact both need each other. Haye needs Klits to become really big and Klits need Haye to help build a big legacy which many people still doubt.

 

Put 100% of the UK money and 100% of the German money already belond to each fighter. Why aren't they considered seperate?

See, if HBO get involved, they will show the fight because it's Haye AND Klitschko. They want to see that fight but won't show either man in seperate bouts. For that money, it should be split 50/50.

However, Haye has signed his contract with Sky and Wlad has his with RTL. If Wlad is not getting enough money, then that's his own fault, right? It shouldn't be anything to do with Haye and Wlad does not deserve 1% of the Sky because the contract is with Haye.

Tell me, mate. Why should Haye compensate Wlad, because he isn't getting paid enough by RTL? That's essentially where the trouble lies.

 

Here comes the ban hammer...

 

Exactly, King Haye can't be bothered to throw bread crumbs to a peasant like Wlad. 50/50 of everything would be cheating the Haymaker, who has been consistent and honest with his demands from the beginning. Haye is bigger than Jesus, Gandhi, and Toliet Paper! I would buy a PPV of him farting with no sound...such is the charisma of Haye.

 

Sky $... RTL $... bla bla bla... who the fk cares?

At the end of the day, Wlad is the HW champ... Haye is the #1 condender (nothing more)
David needs to man up, take the deal and STFU already!

Anybody who thinks different is clearly blinded by national pride or some kind of man-love.

 

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If Haye feels he can make more with his contract fighting bums, because that's what the rest of the division is filled with, then more power to him - but get used to him being called a *****.

As a fan, it's not my job to see Haye get paid. If that extra million is so important to him that it will stop him from making the most important fight in the division then he's not going to look good. It's unimaginable that a straight 50/50 split of all revenues between these two guys can be considered unfair, but somehow on ESB (not surprising) here we are.

 

The poll says it all. For once ESB has it right.

It's up to Haye to bend in the wind here as he's the challenger. When he's the boss he can make the terms. Or he can start fighting contenders and put himself in a mandatory slot.

A Haye-Klitchko fight will be massive in Germany, the UK and will probably do all right in the US as well. Half of that pot is plenty of money, regardless of whether a disproportionate chunk comes from UK PPV sales.

If Haye thinks he'll win he can take the fight, knock out Wlad and on subsequent fights he'll be in a position to make his own slave contract terms.

It's sad that so many Brits are siding with Haye by default and making us all look bad. Just because he's English doesn't mean we have to agree with his actions.

 

Personally, I think absolutely everything should be split 50/50. I'm dissapointed Haye didn't accept that, but I'm also disappointed Wlad didn't accept the offer of looking elsewhere and rejected the possibility of everything 50/50, except the German and UK deals.

Both are at fault. I don't care if they earn millions or not. I just want to see this fight but the ego of both men is stopping it.

 

I prefer Wlad to Haye so my defence of Haye isn't national bias.

I think a key thing is, is you say Haye isn't the boss. As the bigger draw, many would say he is. Again, if Mayweather went up to middle, he would get 70%+ of any deal with Martinez.

 

Haye.

If he wanted to fight a live opponent he wouldn't be taking on Harrison. If he announces Adamek at least it might give some credence to the idea that it is not all his fault that the Wlad fight fell through.

But frankly I don't believe anything he says anymore.