How is Pac weight draining margarito?

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Was talking about significant RECENT wins prior to their title shots.

    I am aware Mayorga fought at JrMW before, but he didn't do squat. And yes, DLH, FORMER titleholder at 154, but getting a shot himself with no wins at 154 for three years?

    Titles, whether won vacant or over a soft titleholder, happens all the time. WHich is why I don't bother fussing over Pac vs, Margarito for a title.
     
  2. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Come on let us be honest here.

    Williams and Martinez is not even realistic fight for Pac. Those guys are natural MW. Williams has no business in 147 except he is desperate for a payday and establish himself as a maintstream boxer like PBF and Pac. Same for Martinez (minus the desperation).
    I like both fighters but they have no business fighting Pac 151 and below.
    Before the Cotto fight, people would have think you are on A-Side meth for even suggesting it.

    I would like to see Berto and Bradley get a decent pay day too. However, not like these guys are convincing challenges either. Not like these guys have dominated anyone that makes you say - those guys can beat Pac or PBF. Their challenge is as good as any top JWW, WW or JMW out there. If Bradley - why not Alexander or Khan? If Berto - why not Mosley or Cotto again?

    Again there is NO perfect opponent for PBF or Pac EXCEPT PBF or Pac at 147.
    That simple. Everyone else there will be some sort of thing people will find to criticize.
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  4. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    You can criticize those guys I mentioned all you like. They're still superior opponents to marg.
     
  5. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    During the Cotto fight they didn't show their fight night weight. Same thing happened in the Clottey fight, no fight night weight. Why?

    Is it because they are not allowed to rehydrate to a comfortable weight (Cotto & Clottey)?

    I have not heard a reason to why their fight night weights were kept a secret.

    I'm very curious is the fighter fight night weights will be shown during this fight. What ya'll think?
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    There's supposedly rehydration clauses that are meant to be kept private.
     
  7. Dom79

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    Let Williams or Martinez come down to 147 or 151 to fight Pac and lose. You boys would immediately say how they were weight drained. Its quite obsurd to suggest Pac move up to 160 to face them.
     
  8. RAW

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    Floyd fought Oscar @ 154. He just chose to come in @ 150. He didn't demand ODLH come in lighter or have a rehydration clause that I know of.

    I don't think Pac is weight draining Marg. I just don't like the fact that it's for a vacant strap when neither one has done anything to earn that strap. I could care less what weight they fight @, but it just cheapens the already worhtless titles. I fully blame the WBC.
     
  9. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that has been my hunch, but there really is no evidence. But if this fight goes the same way (no fight night weights) I'll be convinced that's what's going on.
     
  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I'm confused. Losing muscle is a completely different thing to dehydrating. Which one do you think happened? And if you think De La Hoya was 'dehydrated' for the weigh in, presumably you think he was dehydrated in the fight and for at least the previous two weeks when he weighed the same weight. Do you?
     
  11. Leon

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    When has Mart ever say he would come down to 147 to fight manny? If Williams decided to drain himself by coming into 147 that's his problem, but he claims he can still make 147 fine.

    154 would be the ideal place to fight those two. Paul Williams last fight was at 154, and he didn't show any signs of weight drainage. Martinez hasn't even been up at 160 for over a year yet.
    And marg isn't an easy payday?
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    So far there's never really been any confirmation to thses 'rehydration clauses' people like to throw around. Well, as far as I know that is. Don't think anyone's produced anything on them.
     
  13. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I know. What do you think the reason is to not showing the fight night weights in Pacs last two fights?
     
  14. Leon

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    You bring a up a good point. Had it been other fighters I wouldn't give a damn, but emmanuel dapidran is reliant on making fighters come in at catchweights.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    I have no idea. Perhaps the same reason as DLH and Mayweather when they refuses fight night weights to be posted.