David Haye Video Update

fair point about the PPV part of the TV contacts but it makes no difference to take the 1st offer the klits still have to break a longstanding TV contract and deal with any resulting legal, possibly financhial and reputational backlash...

i have to agree with you, the Klits offer is the only realistic offer (especially with no rematches)

I don't see why having a title stops you from wanting to fight the best?

 

what the **** took him so long

 

Probably because he knows we wont buy it and after a week of trying to think up something more convincing he thought nah I cant sack it I'll just tell 'em this!

And he knows his team are probs gonna reveal Audrey is next in the next day or 2.

 

Why can't ****heads like Haye and Mayweather just ****ing retire already and let the sport recuperate. As it is, these two are making matters worse and setting a dangerous precedent for other boxers to walk away from reasonable offers. Angulo wanted $1Million for **** sakes to fight for the middleweight title.

 

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Haye should have accepted the first offer but there is one thing that I can't understand. Everyone on this thread who knows about German TV is saying that there is no other station that could afford to outbid RTL. Haye said that he would accept RTL if it was the highest offer (a lot of people seem to be ignoring this).

So why has the fight not happened? If the people on this thread are correct then why wouldn't Wlad show Haye the evidence that RLT are the only station capable of hosting such a fight.

These EXACT contract details have been discussed on this website for months and this is the ONLY small part that just doesn't seem to make any sense at all.

1)Haye wants the station that can pay most money.
2)Wlad fans say RLT can pay the most money.
3)Wlad fans say Haye is forcing Wlad to break his contract.

HOW is he? It doesn't make sense!

Seems like all Wlad needs to do is prove that RLT is the highest paying and the deal is done!

Sorry if I'm repeating myself but this is getting so frustrating! Haye is ducking Wlad, we know that but Wlad has also said that this fight is personal and it's not about the money/he doesn't care about the money. For this reason I do not think that Wlad can be totally blame free either because he is not living up to his own words.

 

That´s a good question.

I don´t know the answer. The Klitschko´s have a deal over several fights with RTL. There is no bidding, because they won´t break that contract, but I guess you already know that.
Perhaps they can´t convince him, RTL is the highest paying, because they aren´t even in the position to sell the fight to another TV-Station.
Perhaps it´s just a smoke screen from Haye´s side. He claims that he fights if they get the station that pays the most, but doesn´t approve that it is RTL so that he can offer his deal, where he keeps all the PPV money from the UK and will consequently make more than 50%.

That boxing is free on german Television is good for the fans and good for boxing, but perhaps turns out it is a disadvantage for the Klitschkos, when it comes to negotiations.

 

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I think the issue is that RTL have a multi-fight deal with K2. They pay the same to K2 whether they fight Haye or if they fight me...

 

Haye is definitely ducking the Klitschkos. I like Haye, he has a good style, but he's clearly trying to cash in with his trinket belt. An Audley fight is a joke.

 

some of you people are pretty damn slow. Haye is bringing more money to the pot from his tv contract compared to what Wlad is bringing. Wlad wants a chunk of Haye's tv money, yet Wlad is not matching what Haye will bring. In order to resolve this, Haye is willing to take 50/50 from all other revenue generated, but keep HIS SHARE OF THE TV MONEY.

A lot of you are saying Haye was offered 50/50 but how is that true? If Haye brings for argument sake, 8 million and Wlad brings 5 million. they put that in a pot and split it, Haye is LOSING 3 million of his money and Wlad is GAINING 3 million of revenue that he's not negotiated with a tv network.

Those who are siding with Wlad, explain to me how that is fair??

Remember, Haye has said that 50/50 from all other revenue is ok, and since Wlad can't back away from his RTL contract, this is the best solution. Otherwise, no fight.

 

lanzelotz

This could all be just another excuse from Haye. He may never believe Wlad that RTL pay the most (if that is the case). Or Haye may genuinely think that they could earn more in Germany from another station. It's hard to know the real truth.

Spud565

I understand that RTL have a multi-fight deal with K2 with set fee's etc..

Logic

My whole point is that if what is being said is true the Klitschko's wouldn't have to break their contract. People are saying that there is no other station in Germany capable of paying more than RTL. Haye said he would take the original 50/50 deal if the fight went to the highest paying station. Therefore there is no need for broken contracts, court cases ect.

Either our German friends are wrong or Wlad can't convince Haye of the truth.

 

and another thing......

this video contains nothing new??? - we already knew the German TV contract was the problem
so why the build up to this video - we have already been told about this hitch and it was weeks ago.

why bother making a video that says "there is gonna be an explanation that will clarify things soon and (by the way) i don't speak unless i have something to say (this speech does count though) because i do have something to say but i'm just not going to say it now"

then have the cheek to wait a week and a bit and say something we already know

looking back why did he not just say the reason in the first video?

So in the 1st video he was really saying
"i've got something to say - its important, it happened weeks ago and when i explain it to you it will set the record straight, it'll take 4 minutes to explain but i'm not going to say it now (presumably) because i only have one and half minutes spare at the moment to make videos, instead i am using this spare minute and a half just to let you know that i'll probably have 4 minutes free in about 10 days and will reveal all then okay- stay tuned.

......and by the way don't forget to follow me on twitter

and then the second video today - when he finally finds 4 minutes spare - sat in the back of a car?? (because i presume he was too busy all the other times he has been sat in a car for the last 10 days) he said
"the important reason I have been waiting to tell you all about was the same reason we said weeks ago (i could have just said that 10 days ago i suppose but still.....) - here it is in full again in all its lame glory - stay tuned

......and by the way don't forget to follow me on twitter (where you can see me ***** with .......Audley)"

I think haye should have took the 1st offer - anything else is a let down

but I have a solution:

If Haye is "for real" he should give the fight as a one off to the BBC at a reduced rate so all the uk fans (as well as German fans) could see him fight a klit for free. If he did that he'd be a true champoin and the contract would be fair to both sides at 50/50. (the klits would not be in a position to argue) The'd both of course end up taking less money overall but would both gain a one off huge audience

and both fighters would be paying the fans back and giving the HW division a much needed boost instead of being greedy - aren't they rich enough?

If Haye wants to be the peoples champion thats what he should do - if he wins it would pay off big time (that is assuming he still thinks he can win)

If he loses he would still has a big fan base in the uk (possibly even bigger than before) and he could still generate £££ from fighting Audley as a comback fight

 

rainmaker

It's very complex. Haye can make more in the UK than Wlad can in Germany but it's basically impossible to say accurately (in percentage terms) who is the bigger draw for the entire rest of the word. Does Haye really deserve 50% of the revenue from Ukraine, Eastern Europe etc? When you think about it like this Wlad probably thinks that he is doing Haye a big favor with 50/50 worldwide. When Haye then starts to complain about UK/Germany revenue it becomes the straw that broke the camels back. Wlad gives into one demand then another follows.

I can still see it from both sides but I firmly believe that either man could make this fight happen if they really wanted to. It's a shame for the fans.

I've thought about that exact same thing previously but it's EXTREMELY unlikely to happen.

Maybe another option is that the difference between the UK and German money goes to the winner. Very simple idea.

 

But at the end of the day it's all about the money. Wlad isn't content with what he is getting from RTL, that is why he wants a chunk from Haye's tv deal. Haye doesn't want to lose out, so therefore, he wants Wlad to negotiate with another netork to raise more money to put in the pot, that they can split.

Neither fighters are people's champs, they are business men first and fighters second. Yes Haye does seem to want to secure a multi million pound mega deal, but then so does Wlad, but they have hit a stalemate, and I think at the end of the day, like the above poster said, they could really have made this fight, if it was as simple as 2 fighters wanting to prove who is the best.

It's all about the big bucks! but I still think Haye's solution was as good as can be. He is a draw because people like exciting fighters, Wlad for all his quality is NOT an exciting fighter, he's an effective one and outside of Germany and the Unkraine, I doubt he's a big draw at all. Haye is the one that brings the excitement, and a global audience in general want an exciting fight. Wlad on his own will not deliver that, but Haye and Wlad is curiously exiciting. So it's fair that the rest of the world revenue is split fairly, and as Wlad can't get away from RTL and Haye is contracted with SKy, it's the ONLY fair way to get a fight. Wlad says he didn't care about the money at this stage of his career then why not take this???

If what we are to believe is true, then it's Wlad more than Haye who is stalling this fight.