You have and will never see Floyd fight an ATG in their prime. So what has he proved?

you have lost the plot mate

 

And IF the Mayweather v Pacquiao bout comes off in 2011...would you consider Pacquiao still close to his prime, and a "top boxer with momentum"?

I'm not saying it will come off, so hopefully I won't get a reply saying, 'But Mayweather won't fight him', or something along those lines. IF the bout happens in 2011.

 

That is why I said IF...

 

De La Hoya was in his prime...

 

FAIL atsch

 

The reason I said in my first post, would you consider Pacquiao still close to his prime...is because I feel he may just be leaving his prime. I know thats all down to opinion, and we will probably have to see how he looks against Margarito...but I think his prime was maybe between the De la Hoya and Cotto bout. Although I may be reading too much into his performance against Clottey. It looked as if all the wars may have been catching up with him...but this may just have been down to Clottey's awkward, frustrating style.

 

IF thats the case what so called ATG's has Pacquiao ever beat in their prime???

 

Barrera 1.

Every other fight the opponent has been weight drained or shot as ****.:good

 

The word ATG is thrown around far too leniently.

Kostya was a great at that weight class, but he held his linear title hostage by his inactivity, until Hatton finally hugged an old Kostya to death in his hometown and won it. Arum was not going to throw Cotto in there at 140 with him, and Hatton wasn't ready for him at 140 either, and politics always got in the way of the Kostya fight because he did call out Kostya a few times IIRC. None of the considered greats of that division wanted him at that weight, so he moved on.

Vernon, Cotto? Good fighters for today, but for damn sure not All time great fighters(And since when were people clamoring for a fight with Vernon Forrest in the first place?). He's stupid for retiring at that time, and not fighting Cotto when I think he could have got that fight, so that is his own fault.

He wanted Shane twice when they were both prime, so that was no fault of his own that Shane waited until 2010. And again I'd consider Shane a very good fighter at 147 and Lightweight(And perhaps among the greatest ever in the those weight classes) but an ATG? Shane a Top 100 fighter of all time?

The only "prime" ATG Manny has beaten was MAB which IMO stands as the best win for either of them. Morales was done and couldn't even effectively make that weight class anymore but the rematch was already set in place after Manny lost the 1st time(And according to Morales, Manny placed a stiff weight penalty on him should he not make weight in the 2nd fight). Everyone will agree that the fight he won with Marquez could have easily went the other way.

 

Ask this question to Floyd one day and he will say he never lost.

Ask him a day later and he will say he finished Hatton when he was unbeaten and that's why Manny near killed him.

Ask him a day later and he will say he doesn't actually care, coz' he's all about the money.

I think Floyd is very much like Calzaghe in the fact that he would probably beat anyone around him, but is too scared to do so because he's built his career from that 0 by his name.