Why should Haye get more than 50/50?

Which Wlad has been FOR YEARS, even before Haye started calling Wlad out and before Haye said he must demand 50/50 of all money.

So now Haye acts he's all surprised that Wlad has a multi-fight TV contract in Germany? Give me a ****ing break!

 

plus k2 will do almost 100% of fight organization...... Thats ****ing fair!!!! If haye wants to keep his PPV money he has no business in rtl, HBO and world wide broadcast money.

 

I don't think you read my post. I said the eithe Haye should give in and take the 50/50 of everything or Wlad should cut him the PPV deal he wants. I put them on equal footing here (despite the fact that I am a Haye fan and not a K2 one) I think that either one could take the other's offer and wouldn't come out bad at all the problems people seem to be having are with David Haye the man and not with the negotiations it seems everyone is trying to say David should take what K2 is offering despite the fact that David has a point on the PPV revunue situation and I also think the K2 make a good case with the 50/50 of a whole. I see this as two sides who neither is willing to give the other what they want.

 

He doesn't.

 

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No more people would watch Wlad - Haye by a significant amount then say Haye - Chagaev... to say Haye generates all the PPV sales on his name alone is bul**** wladamirs name and titles will significantly increase the amount of buyers, Same reason that the Valuev fight did almost twice the number of buys as ruiz. :deal

 

:deal

 

Ok, we have this situation, Wlad wants 50/50 on everything for both, Haye wants all UK PPV money while Wlad gets German TV money which means David would get more than 50% in total, so there is only one to blame.

 

It's not like these guys don't already sleep on pillows of money. Lets just cut the **** and have the winner get 80% of everything.

 

This is where the disagreement is. You are still saying that David should take Wlad's deal and that is fine if you feel this way but it doesn't matter how I feel how you feel it matters how Haye and management feel. They want the 50/50 of all split with everything in the pot on an even field or they want to even it up with a PPV split. Again as stated time and time again I have no problem with Wlad's proposal of 50/50 despite the fact that Haye's UK pot is bigger but it is David and his management's decision.

 

You don't disagree it seems, it is indeed Haye's decision which makes it his fault for the fight not happening.

 

I'll try using imaginary numbers as I have no idea about the real numbers involved.

Let's say the total pot is 40 million, a split would make it 20 million each. Now let's say the UK PPV money is 4 million, and Wlads RTL money is 2 million. That would subtract 6 million out of the split, making it 34 million, 17 million each. Haye would add 4 million, making his share 21 million, Wlad would add 2 million, making his total 19 million.

See how this boils down to demanding more than 50% of the money? I don't see how anyone can debate this. The funny part is that in the 34 million they do split, K2 contributes a lot more. But somehow they should split this anyway, because diva Haye deserves it or something like that.

The fifty/fifty split is a bit ridiculous to begin with as Wlad is the man at heavy and has something Haye wants. Or should want, is perhaps a better way to describe it. By that I mean belts, and not money. Haye already gets more money than he deserves, and his only goal by demanding even more is to make the deal impossible.

 

Exactly. Haye made it impossible for Wlad to sign the deal.

 

Thats the point, Haye fans screamed "slave contract!" when Wlad gave him the first time, after the 50/50 offer without options most neutral fans thought it was fair, not the hardcore Haye fans. What you seem to miss is there are more factors to a fight than only the UK pot, without the name Klitschko he would not be able to sell the same amount so both names must be taken into account, I could draw a huge crowd if I fought Tyson in my home town, however it would not mean that I am the attraction. Wlad giving more than 50% to Haye is not acceptable at all and noone in the world would sign the deal if they were in Wlad's position but it is fine if you think Wlad could as well give in.

 

I don't think Haye wants to share the British TV rights because 1) he reasons, correctly, that Klitschko isn't a draw in the UK and therefore doesn't contribute to the income, and b) he saw how much money Ricky Hatton made from fighting Floyd Mayweather and fancies making a big payday like that himself.

All this hysterical whining about Haye being a ***** does overshadow the facts, which is Haye isn't being a *****, he's being petty, and refusing to give up his UK broadcast income for a shot at the title.

Klitschko is being unreasonable asking for a share of the British PPV income, but that's the champions perogative. Haye really should swallow his pride and make the fight happen, even on Klitschko's terms.

 

Im a Haye fan that has been worried for a while but im guna defend him here.

I always thought the argument when it comes to money was about 1 guy saying "wait a minute im the bigger draw here, i generate more money like PPV sales so i should get the bigger cut" Thats certainly been Floyd Mayweathers argument.

Im sure Haye generates more money out of the 2, Vlads big in Germany but he struggles to get his fights shown in the US. I know that regardless of what Americans think of Haye they have been watching his fights with plenty of interest one way or another.

Yeah Vlads got more on the line than Haye but as far as im concenerned Haye generates more cash so if he generates a 60% to Vlads 40% asking for 50/50 is only fair. As is his 2nd offer to take just UK cuz he knows hes guna get plenty.

And if you disagree with the fact he brings more than Vlad then his 2nd option of the UK money is even fairer cuz there aint guna be many Brits or Americans paying for that fight just because Vlads in the ring.