Was Hearns in his Prime for SRL 1

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  1. Manos de Piedra

    Manos de Piedra Active Member Full Member

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    He was pretty young didn't seem as explosive as he later became.
     
  2. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not IMO, his body hadnt fully grown....IMO he didnt have his "grown man strength"
     
  3. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    No he wasnt. Still an amazing fighter but he was not at his best and did not have the big power he would later have.
     
  4. PbP Bacon

    PbP Bacon ALL TIME FAT Full Member

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    Nope, but still at that stage Hearns was a beast, just ask Pipino, Espada, et all...
     
  5. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he was as good as he was going to be at Welterweight but not his very best. He couldn't hold the weight long enough to mature and gain additional experience while still remaining at Welterweight. He had awesome power. There's a difference between hitting welterweights and JM/Middleweights. If his power increased as he moved up, so did the durability of the men he was facing.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say no. He was approaching his prime,which imo,was between 1983/85.
     
  7. Korean Hawk

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    One of the hardest to beat Welterweights of all time.

    He was hardly green, he was in his prime IMO.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was at his most awesome in 1984,imo. Nobody knocked Duran out ! Hearns did somehow.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not until three years later. ask Duran, Shuler
     
  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Nah, Hearns was just an unqualified tramp back then. Ranzany was a much better win for Ray. ;)
     
  11. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not to ride the fence, but yes and no.

    Physically and in terms of quickness and reflexes, absolutely. That was as good or better than he would ever be. His problem then was he hadn't yet honed some of the finer arts of the game he'd learn later.


    I also disagree with the notion that his power increased as he aged and went up in weight. It was precisely the opposite.
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    He was either prime or just before his prime, Leonard was likely at his absolute peak in that fight tho... perhaps the 154 lb Hearns that beat Benitez & Duran was absolute peak.
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yep. Steward insists he overtrained, and I believe he came in at 145 which wasn't ideal considering his height and already lankiness. But I think he was still in his prime.
     
  14. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    YES! Hearns was prime in 1981 to 1985............ Prior to his meeting with SRL in 1981, Hearns was just a **** hair shy of 23........ What hurt Hearns the most in 1981 was not so much SRL in that epic fight, but rather Hearns had over-trained and came in too light at 145 pounds.... Hearns appeared skeletal in "The Showdown."

    Christ, just three months later in the Bahamas, Hearns beat Ernie Singletary over 10 rds on the "Ali-Berbick" undercard weighing 159 pounds and looking a lot stronger.......

    MR.BILL
     
  15. skidd1

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    He was in his prime.Super fast with great skills.Welterweight in a middleweights body at that time
    Yes he came in light at 145 for the fight but no excuses he lost fair and square. Splitting hairs to claim he was not in his prime .