Andre Berto fighting in November

Read my post below. Margarito aint shown **** since his plaster was taken away, and I cannot respect anything he has done until otherwise.

Mayweather stated he only fights once a year. He fought Mosley after Pacman said **** 14 day cutoff on "random" blood testing. Pac isn't the only one who needs to fight Berto. But Pacman IS fighting now right? So my question was why ISN'T he fighting Berto? I see your answer is Berto is not on his level. I believe he is more on his level than Margarito. We can agree to disagree.

 

There have always been new guard/old guard fights, which is all Ootiz vs. Campbell was. Ortiz added a name to his resume, nothing else. Yes, Paulie was alright for Kahn for similar reasons. It was a stwep up for Kahn. Now, Berto vs. Campbell or Kahn or Ortiz is a waste becuase NONE OF THEM ARE WW'S! Berto needs to fight a WW, not a 140er.

Oh bull****...seen as a wipe out by people with common sense? :roll: Wow...suck your own dick much? Revisionist history at its best. But hey, you pointed to one article that proves it I guess...good for you?

WHo gives a ****? He accomplished a lot before. A loss to Shane doesn't take away his wins. If you are going to ask that of Margarito, what has Berto accomplished the last years years himself?

 

Who at WW then should Berto fight? You want him to fight Clottey right? Well **** let him give Clottey another loss. I call a win for Berto in that matchup right now though.

Common sense to me but okay sure... I pointed out one article that proved the exact thing that Clottey did he said in an interview BEFORE the fight? What else is there? Does 1 + 1 not = 2? What else do you need to be shown to make you believe this was an easy matchup made for media hype only? Actually I do believe it was to test Pacmans strength at WW. They just had to do it in a non risk way to keep the money train going. :thumbsup

A loss to Shane does not take away his wins. The fact that he's shown he doesn't have the same power he used to stalk his opponents with takes away his wins in my eyes. Margarito's **** was to stalk his opponent and wear them down... Why the hell aint he doing that since his plaster was taken? He can't do that **** without his plaster power.

 

Oh and this... Ummm being a ****ing WW Champion? You know the thing Margarito DOES NOT have but is somehow fighting for in his second fight?

 

Maybe Berto should fight Senchenko. Then he'd have 2 ww belts & maybe earn a shot @ one of the bigger names. I do think Berto needs to prove himself. If Shane beats Mora, why not do that fight next?

 

If Shane beats Mora I think Berto and Shane would be a great fight.

 

Berto should fight Aydin, and then the winner of Mosely/Mora

 

If he's going to give Clottey a loss, at least he can PROVE it. And you know something, that would be Berto's BIGGEST win at WW.

So you pointed out one article. So? :huh That's supposed to mean all?
Just because youi came about some articvlem, and formed an opinion off it doesn't mean the rest of the world follows suit.

Really? ONe fight after a long layoff, in a higher weight, and you think that's enough to show he doesn't have the same power....for a fight w/ Manny?

For ****'s sake man, you ask all these questions of Margarito, and dude's only had one fight since. atsch

 

Berto's just a titleist. Same thing as a contender these days.


FYI...actually taking the time to type, "Ummmm" just makes you look like a pretentious ass. That's all. :smoke

 

So now actually having a belt at your weight doesn't matter? :huh

This is the level of ignorance we are dealing with. Mayweather says belts don't matter, but actually fights a belt holder. They go into a tizzy. Now that Pac is fighting someone who got KTFO with no belt? It is OK to say belts don't matter. Watch that moving target!

Contradiction, contradiction, after conctradiction...

 

So be it. It might dispel the myth that Clottey is this big threat.

Have you seen Joshua Clottey fight before the Manny Pacquiao bout? If so, does he not cover up an awful a lot and is very selective with his punches? If not, no need for me to even continue this with you. Clottey's style is to cover up and try to block most shots while throwing very little. He always fails to step up with elite competition. Funny though he almost beat Cotto, after plaster boy broke his face and his mindset around getting punished, of course. Pacman throws a very high volume of fast punches. If you pair these two together Pacman will win on the cards 100% of the time. Many people predicted the fight would go this way when it was first made, maybe just not on here.

He had two fights. In neither did he display the type of power or stalking he's known for. Or does the Mosley fight not count since "he wasn't into the fight mentally after getting caught with the plaster fists he planned on beating Mosley unconscious with"

 

Read the comment below. And trust me the way you can't seem to grasp the fact that Clottey knew he would throw 4 punches to Pacman throwing 30 meant a very easy victory for Pacman, I don't have to pretend anything. I'm simply stating facts that you cannot seem to grab a hold of. Try to comprehend instead of attack the way I choose to post my replies. :good

:rofl you know?

 

It may also spell the end of Berto's gravy train.

Of course I have. Seen many of his fights. If you have, then you'd see how he fough Pac was NOT how he looks every fight. He lets his hands go much more often.

I was speaking AFTER the Mosley fight. I'm not the type to make rash decision and change them on a fight by fight basis for a particular fighter. Long layoff's never help fighters look good.

 

I don't care of Berto is a titleist or not. He hasn't faced ANY top WW's yet. that is what matters. DO you think all Champs or titleist are equal or something?

Hate to brake this, but Clottey threw more then 4 a round. GUess his article, the one you hold gospel, shows Clottey LIED then? :huh

Oh spare me the hurt feelings. If you are going to type **** like that, and you should admit it is pretentious to type a non-verbal pause in there, then that's on you.

 

Very true. I doubt it but we'll see if we see.

Yes he lets his hands go a lot more often because his opponent throws a lot less punches than Pacquiao. Not hard to figure out why he would and did throw less. My point is it was known, by less people than I figured I see, that Clottey would throw very little and let Pacman throw a whole lot. He even stated the **** himself. This fight was in no way competitive from the day it was agreed upon.

I wouldn't make it based off one fight either. But somehow Mosley is shot after looking at that one Mayweather loss lol, but that's not the conversation we're on, you may not even be one of those individuals saying that. I count the Mosley bout as well as the comeback fight and neither has showed me anything. We can wait and see what happens against Pacman, but I don't see Margarito doing his usual against Pacman either.