Juan manuel marquez is very underrated on esb these days...

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Ever since JMM fought Floyd everyone says "he's past it, shot, no better than Morales in the 3rd Pac fight etc etc"...

    His only 2 losses in MORE THAN 4 YEARS WERE AGAINST PACQUIAO AND MAYWEATHER...

    He went life and death X2 with the consensus best fighter in the world...

    ESB ranks him #5 on the list

    The Ring puts him at #3....

    GIVE JMM THE PROPS HE DUE...THE GUY CAN BOX, COUNTERPUNCH, AND IS VERY EFFECTIVE AT TIMING FIGHTERS (SEE BOTH PAC FIGHTS) AND IS ONE OF THE BEST FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD TODAY.

    P4P Top 10

    THE RING

    1. MANNY PACQUIAO
    2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
    3. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
    4. NONITO DONAIRE
    5. SHANE MOSLEY
    6. PAUL WILLIAMS
    7. SERGIO MARTINEZ
    8. PONGSAKLEK WONJONGKAM
    9. FERNANDO MONTIEL
    10. VLADIMIR KLITSCHKO

    http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/

    P4P Rankings put together by ESB forum members

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
    3. Chad Dawson
    4. Paul Williams
    5. Juan Manuel Marquez
    6. Sergio Martinez
    7. Wladamir Klitscko
    8. Shane Mosley
    9. Miguel Cotto
    10. Nonito Donaire

    :deal

    THE BEST, AND MOST PROVEN, MEXICAN FIGHTER TODAY.
     
    sdsfinest22, Sep 5, 2010
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  2. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I wouldnt call him shot based on the Mayweather fight, should be fighting nowhere near WW. He is past his best though, not shot, but past his best.
     
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  3. aztec1

    aztec1 UNDERDOG Full Member

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    I don't think so man, I know the majority in here have nothing but respect and admire his skills and their are a few that think his past it but I still think he's got the skills to take on some of this top fighters out there...
     
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  4. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Paul Williams in the top 10 :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  5. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    everythings to do with floyd isn't it sdgaysfinest?

    instead of talking why dont you go on www.youtube.com and watch marquez's last 3 or 4 fights and then come back to us.
     
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  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    JMM is an ATG boxer in my book but I don't think that at WW he is a threat to anyone of the top guys. Even at JrWW I think a guy like Amir Khan can handle him relatively easy. And I don't even have Khan in my top15 p4p.

    JMM seems to have lost a step since his move up to LW and even moreso after going up to WW and back down to LW


    BTW I just noticed that Hopkins has been dropped out of the top10 p4p.
     
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  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    AGREED! I think up to 140 he can be effective...I would like to see a Khan or Maidana fight...hes a good boxer and EXCELLENT COUNTER PUNCHER!:good
     
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  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Montiel deserves his spot there

    I got Sergio Martinez #3 in my book...:good

    Bhop might be able to get back in with a nice W over Pascal and another W over Chad
     
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  9. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    1. Floyd
    2. Pac
    3. JMM
    4. Martinez
    5. Wlad
    6. Mosely
    7. Montiel
    8. John
    9. Bradley/Cotto/Wonjongkam
    10. Bradley/Cotto/Wonjongkam
     
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  10. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Mine changes quite often but they're usually the same name I have in there.
     
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  11. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still enjoying a sneer I see Hozumi.

    You never told me if you bet on your prediction of Poonsawat KO'ing Dunne in 3.
     
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  12. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    You laugh yet you rank Sergio #4.
    Whether u agreed with decision or not it was a close fight.

    Plus PW shut out Winky. Sure, not prime Winky, it was an inactive version, but that's not PW's fault. It was a thorough beatdown. Not to mention beating the glove loader and avenging his only loss by round 1 KO.


    Why the laughter?
     
    Uncle Oden, Sep 5, 2010
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  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He's quite clearly past it, and there's nothing disrespectful about saying it. ...Actually it's more respectful to recognize that the man that went into damn deep water with Juan Diaz at lightweight is a past it version of an at best natural super featherweight JMM.
     
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  14. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    No I didn't bet. Kicking myself to this day, especially now as I'm skint and I'm jsut about to sepnd over £400 going to a festival. :patsch
     
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  15. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    I think I meant to put him no.5, Wlad at 4. Willibum's skills dont even care to Martinez'.
     
    Hozumi's Hook, Sep 5, 2010
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