Just finished Johnny Lewis' book. Anybody had a read?

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  1. Rodin

    Rodin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep. Some of these fans are good at spending someone elses life.
    KT would have had his work cut out with Hatton 5 years before, let alone at 35 & at 2AM.
    He simply had nothing left. Ricky would have done what he had to do without thinking of the repercussions.
    As the Doctor said, he was a potential dead man had he tried to go the distance, & Ricky would have to live with that too.

    Another one.
    It wasn't mentioned in the book but I remember Jeff Harding saying in a flash interveiw that he wanted Hearns.
    If Johnny ever had given any thought of Jeff retiring, that statement would have sealed his opinion.
    Johnny reponded with something like "We're not looking at Hearns" :-:)yikes
     
  2. darkhorse

    darkhorse Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know about that Rodin mate.....a 30 year old Kostya would've destroyed Hatton I believe....history has shown that Hatton can be outboxed...(if ya tough enough)....and Tszyu could box bit too....but yes in that fight it was the old cliche about a fighter growing old in one fight....I like many was stunned and totally gutted.
     
  3. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    I'm a huge KT fan but he did come to rely on that right hand way too much in his last few fights. He didnt box nearly as much as he used to early on in his career.
     
  4. Rodin

    Rodin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah mate, it sort of came out wrong.
    I meant that if KT was 5 years younger, not if they fought five years before.

    But I'm not sure about him "Destroying" Hatton.
     
  5. darkhorse

    darkhorse Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fair enough....

    ;)...yeah mate...I'm dramatic
     
  6. Johnny Boy

    Johnny Boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I haven't read the Lewis book yet but after reading some excerpts here I don't think that Lewis is a saint and as principled as some believe.

    A principled man would not have continued to work with Tszyu after having found out that he was being shafted half of his %. Lewis could have told Tszyu that he would be willing to wait a couple of fights for $800,000 but would no longer work in Tszyu's corner. If Tszyu refused to pay Lewis could've taken it through the courts.

    Reports at the time said that Tszyu claimed it was a misunderstanding due to there not being a written contract since they split from Mordey and that Tszyu was willing to discuss the matter with Lewis to resolve it. It appears that Tszyu did pay $800,000 to Lewis, so I don't see what the whole controversy is.

    What was the relationship between Lewis and Mordey? Did they ever have a falling out? I always thought they had a fairly close relationship because of the early Fenech days.
     
  7. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just finished reading the book - brilliant read.

    It can be argued that the book is largely a collection of Lewis' thoughts and therefore mostly one man's views. But this guy is a great Australia - there's no question in my mind about that.
     
  8. darkhorse

    darkhorse Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Giday Johnny boy....I'm sure all your questions will be answered if you read the book mate.
    cheerz
     
  9. Johnny Boy

    Johnny Boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey darkhorse, will head down to Borders today to have a quick read.
     
  10. LeonMcS

    LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton Full Member

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    Its only $20 at Big W.
     
  11. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True. That's what I paid, and after having seen it at $38.99 about 50 metres up the passage-way in, I think, Angus & Robertson.

    Best $20 anyone will spend this side of Christmas IMO.
     
  12. darkhorse

    darkhorse Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hmmm....Collins Bookstore stung me $35....the kunts!
     
  13. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    prophecies of sallywinder thread was deleted. i can only guess it was because it was hijacked by other posters and there is a dead**** mod that has it in for me...
    anyway. here is my final predictions.

    tony 'windsor' (queens name) is not a kingmaker......he is a QUEEN maker....labor to rule.

    also. aussie focus is on canberra, greens have the ascendency.........can the raiders win it?
     
  14. Johnny Boy

    Johnny Boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had a fairly quick flick through the book.

    Tszyu wanted to have a written contract with Lewis but Lewis said he wasn't interested in one. A misunderstanding between the two was possible given there was nothing in writing to refer to. Tszyu wasn't the brightest businessman in the early days having been lured by Mordey to Australia with promises of microwaves amongst other things.

    I see Mordey and Lewis split over Tszyu's defection. Lewis tried to use the Harding analogy with Mordey, but that still doesn't make what he did principled. Simply because Mordey continued to promote Harding after Harding left Lewis did not make it right for Lewis to continue training Tszyu after Tszyu left Mordey.

    It seems as though Lewis seems to think that anything that ever went wrong was somebody else's fault and he did no wrong. He mentions Fenech complaining about the hard spars before the Nelson rematch and uses this to support his view that Fenech wasn't the same fighter anymore. He doesn't mention that Fenech was sparring Tszyu at the time and Tszyu was getting the better of it. Given Tszyu's weight and skills, they should never have been sparring prior to the Nelson rematch. If anything was responsible for Fenech's loss of confidence and subsequent KO it was this.
     
  15. Bollox

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    I would have thought that Fenech sparring Tszyu in preparation for the Nelson fight was a good thing :huh