OPINIONS... Who wins...Mayweather or Pacquiao?

Pac won his first title against someone who was faster than him. A slick defensive minded fighter who's style is to hit and not get hit. He's 10 times the fighter today that he was back then.

Judah is a bad example because unlike Pac, Judah puts his offense in the bottom drawer once he gets hit. The only similarity is that they are fast southpaws and even then Pac has fast hands and feet, while Judah only has fast hands. Pac can do everything that Judah did in those first 4 rounds but even better and over 12 rounds. Even Clottey was able to break down Judah pretty easy while on the flip side he was shut out by Pacquiao. Whether Floyd uses the high guard which I expect him to do or the Philly shell, Pacquiao will create angles and a rhythm that Floyd will find more difficult to defend against that anything he's ever seen.

I see Pac winning as the most likely outcome because Floyd will find it harder to adapt than he ever has before and unlike most of Floyd's previous opponents Pac will not wear out as the fight wears on.

I don't see a KO happening though because I think if Floyd really senses he's in danger of being stopped he will go into survival mode and his defense is good enough to keep him from being stopped. Also I expect the fight to be competitive especially if Floyd is able to outmuscle Pacquiao which should be the case considering the difference in natural size. Floyd's chin is also solid and he has not suffered much damage to his skin in his career so I don't see it being stopped on cuts either.

 

Very diff boxers.

 

Pac is so much more complete than Judah and better in every department.

 

Please, you saw what happened to Judah and a bunch of good fighters like Judah southpaw or not who tried to beat Floyd-they all lost lol... Floyd is totally prepared for a fighter like PAc. PAc is not prepared to fight a fighter like Floyd lol...

 

PAc is just in better shape than Judah now lol...

 

Floyd has never gone into survival mode lol...ever! People like to pick the defensive Floyd against the offensive PAc, but when Floyd is hit, he comes full force and *******s fail to acknowledge this. You will find out one day how easy it will be for Floyd to hit PAc.

 

Zab Judah has faster reflexes and handspeed than Floyd.

dapidran has done moar in his boxing career, but he DOES NOT have the same kind of reflexes as Zab.

Zab is a PATIENT fighter in the first few rounds whose willing to box behind his jab. he WANTS to be a slickster. Putting dapidran's name in with slick is a crime.

Zab has a better jab and left uppercut. Dapidran has a better hook and left hand.

Floyd relies on his superior reflexes, speed, and timing to counter opponents. Naturally, someone who has greater reflexes and speed is going to give him trouble stylewise. That's why Floyd had to bust down Zab's body in order to slow him down.

dapidran doesn't have the physical gifts like Judah did to out-counter Floyd. He was getting timed and countered by the nonathletic and chubby Juan Manuel Marquez.

Judah and dapidran don't even have similar hand placements.

 

Pacquiao is not gonna sit there waiting to counter Mayweather, not to mention his countering abilities aren't as good as Judah's. If he sits there like Judah did waiting for Mayweather to get off first, he's gonna get outboxed

 

I don't know if he is more complete then Judah, they both have different skills and weaknesses and may even out on that. Judah gets the size and reach edge. What separates Pac from Judah is he has 10times the heart. If Judah had the heart of Pac then he would be a HOF type of talent.

The comparison with Judah was strictly to show that Mayweather has proven he can face and beat someone who matches him in athletic ability, speed, with more power, and a southpaw stance to boot. I wasn't looking to say that Mayweather will beat Pac because he beat Judah. Mayweather fought Judah more aggressive then he is going to fight Pac. He new that Judah would crumble if the pressure was on. While pressing Pac will be fighting at Pac's strength.

I think Mayweather will win because he matches up well with Pac in all Pac's strengths, has multiple strengths that are Pac's weaknesses, as well as having the size advantage. I don't think what Pac has is enough to overcome all the things going against him.

More power to him if he were to pull it off. Especially if he were to beat Mayweather over 12rds.

 

I think that right off the bat the fact that Mayweather will probably have to use a high guard instead of the shoulder roll to defend Pac's straight left effectively shows that its not true that Floyd matches up well with Pac in all Pac's strengths. Yes Floyd is adaptable and can fight many different way but that doesn't change the fact that he is at his very best when he is fighting out of the shoulder roll. Another one of Pac's strengths is his speed and if you see the Judah fight one of Judah's strengths that Floyd wasn't really matching up well with was his speed. Pac also has developped one of the most varied offensives in the sport and comes from all angles and directions with both hands and throws punches in combinations which is another one of his strengths that will not play into Floyd's hands. He also has great physical and mental stamina and can push a high workrate over 12 rounds even when he is getting tagged which is another strength that won't play into Floyd's hands.

So while I do agree that Floyd has alot of strenghts that don't play into Pac's hands like superior physical strength and height, a great right hand, great spacial awareness in the ring and great stamina.... the opposite is equally true if not moreso.

 

Young Mayweather handles speed much better than dapidran deals with excellent timing. Young Mayweather ended dominating the faster Judah, but dapidran could never figure out Juan for hire. He still couldn't crack the Juan for hire code even after 4 years of gained experience and the help of fred roach.

 

pacman can only win by KO, mayweather can win by decision or KO. style wise i give it to mayweather, how many counter punchers have pacquiao fought? and what happened? how many tried to bull rush mayweather? and hes stilll 41-0

 

Managing to explain the truth in so few words. END THE THREAD.

 

My analysis of the PBF/Pac fight:

Floyd:
Floyd will be the aggressor. I know that's hard to believe, but he dosen't seem to like backing up too much when fighting southpaws. He gets hit more often when fighting southpaws as a result of this. His straight right hand is sneaky, quick, and he throws it in like a hundred different ways (short and straight, wide around the gloves, from his hip, etc..). Pac will eat those up all night. But he shouldn't fall in love with it, though. In my opinion, he should back up and counter Pac like Marquez was able to do. Floyd is stronger, quicker, and hits harder than marquez, and Marquez was able to hurt pac several times with the same sequence, wait for the straight left, take a half step back and throw a straight right-left combo. Floyd has a better jab than he gets credit for, and he'll need to use it often. Pac is shorter and has a smaller reach so floyd should use his jab to keep him in range for his punches. He can't let Pac get any momentum because once he does, he'll never stop punching! If Floyd finds his back to the ropes, tie him up! Then get to the center of the ring and JAB JAB JAB.

Pac:
Two words. RIGHT HOOK. He needs to time Floyds leaping right hands and catch him leaping in which will be hard because Floyd is so quick with that punch. But Floyd has been caught with it on occasion and it has given him trouble. With Floyd wanting to come forward, Pac will have a lot of chances to time that punch. He also has to smother Floyd when he tries to rest and not let him. If Floyd gets time to sit back and analyze his opponent fighting when he wants to, he'll pick him apart no matter who it is, so he needs to be focused on defending himself and fighting back. Pac also needs to vary his attack. Floyd is too smart to get beat with that same 1-2-3 over and over from Pac. He'll start picking up on the timing and then it's over. So Pac should bring his bag of tricks and then some.

I can't see him keeping up with Manny punch for punch, but I also can't see Manny outthinking Floyd either. With all that **** being said, Floyd by close UD.

 

Good post.

I also see Young Mayweather is the aggressor since he knows that emmanuel is very vulnerable to right hands, bodywork has to be done to slow down the quick footed emmanuel, and that emmanuel isn't good fighting backwards. Floyd's right hands find a way in regardless of how vulnerable the opponent is to rights, but he hits the jackpot with dapidran due to how open he is for them.

The right hand is a tool to make way for Floyd to get into the pocket and punish the body. emmanuel is not a good inside fighter and is a sucker for uppercuts; Young Mayweather is ruthless inside with those left hooks and right uppercuts. Floyd uses his superior strength to clinch after he's done doing surgery to the body, so the ref can reset them.

emmanuel over-commits to throwing his left hand for moar power and puts himself off balance often when throwing them. Cotto who doesn't really have a right hand was able to take a step back from emmanuel's left to counter with his own right. I'm sure Floyd took note of that and has the pull-counter ready.

Every time Floyd has been caught big it has been from some kind of right. Corley was able to buzz him with a right hook counter, Judah knocked him down witha right hook counter, Oscar was able to land some overhand rights, the only punch that really worked for Marquez was the overhand right, and we all saw what Mosley did.

Mosley used lefts to the body to set up the round right upstairs. I'm sure that roach and dapidran have seen how Floyd gets caught with round rights. The setup that Mosley caught Floyd with is similar to the left hand to the body, right hook upstairs combo that manny used to knockdown Cotto.

Floyd and everybody knows that emmanuel's most dangerous punch is his left hand. Young Mayweather figures that punch out and takes it away by countering, blocking, slipping, or judging distance to step out of the way. pacman's straight left will be gone just like Judah's left was taken away.

emmanuel has to rely on that straight left of his like a jab to get him into proper mid-range distance where he really does damage. All that's left after Floyd takes the left away is the right hook. Floyd's has an arm length advantage of 3 inches, so he easily and safely counters emmanuel's right hook by throwing his jab over the top. That was how Morales was able to control emmanuel with the jab.

$ scores a TKO over emmanuel dapidran pacquiao in round 11.