Boxings Biggest Fraud

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Exactabox, Sep 6, 2010.


  1. NullpointerAlex

    NullpointerAlex Active Member Full Member

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    Hey!!! Jesus Chavez was a hard fight, his record of 1-13-1 might not have been the best, but the guy could take a punch...

    Also, Miguel Melon was a tough fight. He had a fantastic 8-1 record, being defeated only by Sam Girard. If you combine the win/losses of the 7 Melon fights, it was 5 wins and 33 losses. So that was a real challenge. :yep

    Besides, he has big names on his resume, ok, so they were all old and past their prime, or had to fatten themselves to fight Gayweather, but what does that matter? They're big names all the same... All you haters out there, oops, I mean, you *******s, Money Mayweather has made a lot of money, so he's the greatest wrestler of all time! Who else done it like him? Went in wrestling and stuff? HE BEAT THE BIG SHOW!!! WHO ELSE DONE IT LIKE THAT??? That's why he's the greatest ever.

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    Look at that perfect choke hold, who else done it like that, maybe besides Ric Flair?

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    THAT'S LIKE A BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENT THAN BEATING A HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION LIKE ROY JONES JR DID!

    Also, look at all that money, how can he not be greater than all other boxers?

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    YOU STUPID *******S, IF HE WAS NOT THE GREATEST, WHERE DID HE GET THAT MONEY HUH? And look at that pretty face, what real man would not want to ride his dick?

    Btw, if you're wondering why he has such a strange expression, t's because he's being pleasured by MichiganWarrior and NALLEG... Who else done it like that?
     
  2. Kayo-Kid

    Kayo-Kid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess its all a matter of opinion...u do hav an argument, even tho I do think its nit pickin and can b done to jus about any fighter today. The problem with this is that its basically done in order to discredit an individual of their accomplishments. I'm a fan of boxing and I love Floyds skill aswell as Manny's but calling Floyd the biggest Fraud in boxing is alil harsh imo cos how many titles does he hav agen?
     
  3. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with you Floyd really could have tested himself against better opponents however i can't agree with the horrific style and chin comments.

    Floyd is ****ing great to watch and he had been caught flush on the chin twice in his career and once by a big punching Mosely he still didn't go down where do you get the horrific chin from?

    AND i'm as frustrated as the next man that this god damn Pacquiao fight is taking so long i genuinly think there will be a trilogy between the two and it will be the end of both mens careers.

    For the record Floyd takes the trilogy 2-1 IMO
     
  4. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess pac fought superstars in his first 20 fights?

    In fact didn't he get knocked out in his first 20 fights?
     
  5. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd - 0 fights vs 1 great prime fighter O vs any ATG in prime
    0 knockdowns, 0 knockouts vs any ATG fighter even if they were 38.

    So a no power boxer who has never fought one atg in their prime is going to step into the ring with Manny? he knows Manny is a beast and rants about steroids to cover up. Manny will take the test. Floyd will never take the fight.
    Everytime Floyd stepped up he got ****ed up. Castillo 1 after his 24-0 vs not one decent fighter he lost. Then he fought Mosley at 39 the man had him wobbling all over the ring. He can't hurt an older Oscar after Hopkins knocked him out. He couldn't hurt Shane who lost to Cotto.
    Cotto, Williams, Manny, Tszu All would knockout Floyd every single one of them in prime or now except Tszu who is not a factor anymore.
     
  6. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    maybe it has something to do with expectations. manny was coming from a third world country. he wasn't exposed to the best facilities or trainers early on and yet he was able to rise up the ranks. we all saw how crude he was when he started out and expected him to lose against barrera, morales, marquez, hatton, cotto, so on and so forth. and he constantly proved doubters wrong.

    on the other hand, floyd was more gifted in terms of being exposed early on to boxing through his father and uncles and had access to better opportunities generally. he was better prepared for professional boxing. he has great skills no doubt about it. but since he is coming off of this situation, people are expecting a lot more from him and in terms of the quality of opposition. 41-0 is a very good record no doubt. i'm sure if tszyu, cotto, margarito, williams, pacquiao, mosley were in his resume (granted he fought them all at the right time) then no one would be questioning his achievements this much.
     
  7. NullpointerAlex

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    Yeah nothing like seeing him beat up old washed up fighters... :patsch Watching him struggle for 12 rounds against old almost-retired boxers is ****ing great to watch compared to watching them get KO'd in a couple of rounds vs a real boxer like Pacquiao...

    If only Mosley wasn't a shadow of who he once was, he wouldn't have ran out of juice in the 3rd round, and would have been able to easily get rid of that Fraud Gayweather... :rofl

    And you wonder why that is right? Couldn't be that Gayweather is duckign him.. Naaaah... Must be something else. There must be another explanation...
     
  8. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. He was marketed to America. From the Olympics to HBO. Because someone looks great against weak opp or older fighters means nothing until you earn it by facing the best and showing how your style would overcome theirs. For the small amount of punches he throws it does not bode well vs a Manny. For no power he has to go 12 rounds and if he gets hurt it wont be a 38 year old guy backing off they wlll go for the kill.

    Floyd fights for a prize not for death by a thousand left hands. My money is on Floyd reitred for good or will never face manny.
     
  9. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah i've realised that now mate :good
     
  10. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac Never got knocked out when he stepped up over 130 ever.
    You can take just Cotto and either Barerra or Erick Morales and it is better than Floyds resume combined.
     
  11. Kayo-Kid

    Kayo-Kid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I jus 2k note of that now...the hatred towards Floyd is not even camouflaged :-o
     
  12. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that is why to fully appreciate a fighter's achievements, you have to consider the circumstances he dealt with in each part of his career. 41-0 looks definitely better than pac's record. but the numbers alone do not tell the whole story. with floyds advantages, he could have achieved more, had he tried more and i think that is what people are criticizing him for.
     
  13. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** me here's another one!

    I forgot Floyd only ever had two fights my mistake

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  14. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robert Apodaca
    Reggie Sanders 1-1
    Jerry Cooper
    Edgar Ayala
    Kino Rodriquez 9 wins-9 loses
    Bobby Geipart 1997
    Tony Duran 12 wins-15 loses
    Larry OSheilds
    Jesus Chavez 1 win 13 loses
    Louie Leija
    Felipe Garcia
    Angelo Nunez 14-11-3
    Hector Arroyo - Born 1966
    Sam Girard
    Miguel Melo
    Gustavo Fabian Cuello 23-21 (5KO's)
    Tony Pep Born 1964
    Genarro Hernandez born 1966 lost to Oscar prior
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ---------------------------------------- 19. Angel manfredy Floyd is 1-0
    Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios - Lost to Ceaser Soto 2 fights b4
    ****** Juuko - Knocked out fightbefore by Antonio hernandez
    Gregorio Vargas
    Emanuel Augustus - lost 3 of 4 prior
    25. Diego Corrales - 2-0
    26. Carols hernandez
    27. Jesus Chavez
    28. Jose Luis Castillo - 2-1
    29. JLC II - 3-1
    Victoriano Sosa
    Phillip N'dou
    DeMarcus Corley
    Artuo Gatti
    Sharmba Mitchell - Knocked out by Kosta Tszu 2 fights before
    36. Zab Judah 4-1
    Carols Baldomir - He was 35 years old

    38. Oscar - After KO'd by Hopkins
    39. Ricky hatton -
    40. JMM - 142 lbs Floyd 146. Paid 600k for 4 lb advantage and JMM to come to weight he never fought at
    41. Mosley

    Floyd is 4-1 win and loss to Castillo win vs Manfredy, Judah, Corrales

    then oscar - ok after he got Ko'ed by Bhop and still fought a close fight 5-1
    ricky hatton - fine 6-1
    JMM - no way at 142 w/ Floyd paying 600k to be 146
    Shane Mosley at 39 off 18 month lay off ok - still got rocked 7-1

    6-1- 3 biggest wins vs hatton, corrales, judah -
    could not put away ODH like the other ATG's did - Manny , Hopkins
    Mosley- 38 years old.

    WEAKEST RESUME - Olympian + HBO + marketable = hype job
     
  15. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I already stated I would post 41 threads. One for each fight.
    I don't care because I knew for years.