Could a lighter man fight in a heavyweight division if he wanted to?

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  1. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think it did, though it did before 2003. In any case Jones and Ruiz fought for the WBA heavyweight title on 01/03/2010; John Marc Mormeck fought Oleksander Hurov for the WBA cruiserweight timtile the same night, with both weighing in below 190.
     
  2. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, they can tell you to strip naked if they want.
     
  3. janitor

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    I think that some of these points are wrong.
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    They can but they almost invariably dont.
     
  5. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Which ones, apart from the date which was obviously a typo ? both fights were on 01/03/2003 (not 2010, and I'm using the British date format - i.e. 1st March 2003).
     
  6. janitor

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    Virgil Hill was contesting cruiserweight titles above 190lbs in 2002.
     
  7. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not real ones he wasnt. He fought for an IBC title at above 190 but might have came in overweight for all I know (or care). His opponent was below 190.

    I think the WBC had the limit at 195 at one stage but had lowered it to 190 in line with the others.
     
  8. globe_trotter

    globe_trotter Member Full Member

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    a little difference in opinion between billy and janitor.

    it still isnt clear, billy and i thought you'd have to be 200 or above to count as a minimum and qualify you as a 'heavyweight'

    janitor brought up an interesting fact about the 7 pound allowance, so i gather all in all, if you tip scales at 193 you're good to go?

    can someone confirm this with solid proof?
     
  9. billyk

    billyk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't regard it as a fact when he still hasn't provided a single example of anyone doing it to show it's allowed, he thought Jones was one but he wasn't.
     
  10. globe_trotter

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    you got a point, when i asked this in general section they told me you can come in at whatever weight you want, so according to their logic a lightweight could fight a heavy if he wanted to.

    is there a written piece of document that explains this, anybody, a solid reference would be helpfull.
     
  11. globe_trotter

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    well just been doing some research it seems like you have to be at least a pound above cruiser's 200 limit to qualify, however i think if you're in 190lb range you could definetly get away with it provided commisioners are not going to ask you to strip during the weigh in.

    but if such restriction is enforced either way it's stupid. I meam if no one forces the fighter and it's out of his own free will to fight there, then why the hell not? fighters before had done it, and it's not like he's coming into the ring with an advantage.
     
  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heavyweight has no weight limits ...... a featherweight ko'ing the heavyweight champ becomes the champ.
     
  13. globe_trotter

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    are you sure of it or are you taking a guess? im only asking because there seems to be a split opinion on this. some people are saying what you're saying and others are stating that you have to be at least a pound over the cruiser limit.

    and another poster even said that there's a 7 pound allowance....im not knocking on your answer but do you have any type of reference to support it?
     
  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The IBF and WBC both had cruiserweight title fights after Jones fought Ruiz and the weight limit was 190. On the under card of Jones-Ruizn Mormeck fought Hurov for the WBA cruiser weight title and both men came in below 190, so I believe it is reasonable to assume the limit was also 190 at that point.
     
  15. TonyCamonte

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    http://www.abcboxing.com/documents/abcboxing_regulatory_guidelines.htm

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    I'm not entirely sure I understand this correctly, but it appears to me, that the column "weight difference allowed" indicates how many lbs you are allowed to weigh in under the weight limit.
    Which would mean that you would basically not be allowed to weigh in one division under the one you are fighting in. E.g. if you fought at featherweight, you'd have to weigh at least 122, since the "weight difference allowed" is 4 lbs. There are some exceptions where there's a one pound difference (FLW, MW, SMW, LHW).
    The big exepction being the cruiserweight division, where you apparently have to weigh at least 188... and the minimumweights, as you obviously have no lower division. You seem to have to be at least 102 pounds to fight in it.
    Now for the heavies: It seems you'd have to be at least 200 pounds nowadays.

    That is, if I understand this right...
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