Andre dirrell has the lot!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rjko23, Sep 8, 2010.


  1. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I'm trying to say about the scoring is that these judges and writers are no more experts than you and I. Judges are just people with the connections to do so however they got them. They don't have that extensive training and are not rated on how they score fights. They have thier own interpetation of scoring criteria and bias as well.

    And compubox is a hoax like I said. Those people get it wrong all the time and people use punchstats to suit thier argument which is why I don't bring it up like I said. If you ask anyone on here how many powershots froch hit dirrell with then you will see I'm not the only one who said he landed less than 6 clean powershots upstairs while having his head snapped back 40 plus times with straights and hooks.
     
  2. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    abraham had a broken jak against miranda.... thats the only reason he took him 12 rounds.
    u saw what a fit abraham did.
     
  3. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is that your excuse :rasta:rasta:rasta:lol::lol:
     
  4. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he did, or are you saying Dirrell was faking? :think
     
  5. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I must say, I really like Dirrell. I think he is the most gifted fighter at 168 at the moment. Hope he will kick Wards ass....
     
  6. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I got him mixed up with 46and0 who put a thread up stating that Abraham was gonna obliterate dirrell's glass jaw. I was mistaken. Nothing more too it. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213874

    I think dirrell has a decent chin. Not great but manageable. He took a big left hook from froch and a big right from AA early in both fights and wasn't stunned. Like anyone though, If he get's hit with big shot after big shot he's gonna get hurt.

    I don't know if dirrell was faking. A case can be made for either. I've seen people act worse from less and vice versa while serving in Iraq.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dirrell is the truth.

    Dirrell should maybe tighten up his D and make it a little more "technical" versus "physical" to conserve some stamina for the later rounds, but other than that the man has talent.
     
  8. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    wats ward got to do with this ? where talking about dirrell
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Could be that Pavlik ruined him???
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Box rec doesnt do punch stats clown. And the 12 round aint debateable how you score it ******. Its a clear Dirrell round.

    WHy dont you post yours scorecard you homo. :lol:
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    You keep getting it wrong :patsch. Let me help you, you complete imbecile.
    If you go on Froch or Dirrells record on Boxrec, find their fight on the respected record, go to the far right, and there is a book icon. Click on it and there is the answer wally.

    :pwned AGAIN
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Listen ******. Boxrec is like wikipedia. Anybody can edit that ****. Hell have you seen their rankings? :lol:

    You're an utter clown. Nobody takes boxrec seriously unless you are looking up a fighters history. Please tell me homo, how did boxrec count punches seeing as how HBO is the only network with a compubox counter?

    Boy you are ******ed.


    Btw, post your scorecard ***. I know you keep ducking and dodging because you're a little *****.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is a good combination puncher, but only given the right opportunities. Against Abraham, he was. Against Froch, he wasn't. I think the Abraham fight clouded peoples judgement, because of how static Abraham can be at times. I saw a similar knee jerk reaction to Paul Williams after the Winky fight and there are a lot of comparisons that can be made there.

    That ducking and diving is not technical skill.

    He is a good switch hitter, yeah.

    Pretty good jab, yep.

    I don't even think that's true, mate.

    I don't think this is good technical ability. More something he can get away with because, like you said, he's fast.

    But he doesn't do it technically well. He gets caught doing it.


    As promised, a few quotes from me:

    "Dirrell just isn't that good. He's fought two guys who are absolutely perfect for him, lost one and won the other by DQ. I don't see any real skill in what he does. He puts shots together well against a static opponent, but given movement, he becomes a one punch fighter. His movement is very poor at times and he relies too heavily on moving. He really isn't that elusive, either. He makes far too many mistakes to be considered an elite fighter and I expect Dirrell to beat him relatively easily.

    His biggest problems are mental. He doesn't have a fighters heart and he fights completely stupid fights. He fights like Khan did, almost. Making basic mistakes and fighting without any clear gameplan.

    Physically he's good but that's only a part of the equation."



    "He fights an elusive style but he takes too many shots. Look at the latter part of the Abraham fight. He was very lucky to escape with a win there. Abraham was winging his shots yet still landing.

    He does have great reflexes but his defence is purely reflex based. A misconception with boxers is that reflexes are defence. It's not. You need a brain and defensive moves to make it work, which Dirrell lacks.

    His movement is bad because it's not smart. He doesn't position himself for offence or defence. He backs up in straight lines, leaves his hands down whilst jumping out, moves too much and so on. Compare his movement to Mayweather's. They are poles apart but similar in style.

    Looking at his movement, is like looking at an instinct fighter. That is not a compliment. He lacks the brain to use his physical attributes and that will stop him from becoming elite. He is part there, like j said, but it's unlikely he will improve at this stage of his career."



    "In the Super 6? I think he's less skilled than Ward and Kessler by a long way. Definetly less skilled than Taylor too. I'd say he's about as skilled as Jean Pascal.

    That's just technical ability though. His lack of mental skills hinder him even more.

    It doesn't nessecarily take good skills to land in a flurry and make your opponent miss. Some boxers, such as Dirrell, are lucky enough to be blessed with great reflexes and handspeed, and that's their defence. Dirrell does not have great defensive skill and relies on his physical attributes to save him."
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not everyone can edit the fight information. That's done by them and it's what he's referring to. You can edit the boxer profile, I think, but he's on about the fight report.

    Their rankings are done by computer. It doesn't make the site any less credible. The system is flawed though, but they admit that, which is why the ratings aren't taken seriously.

    No, they aren't.
     
  15. Nipple

    Nipple I hate my username banned

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    Awesome boxer. Period.

    I was at the froch/dirrell fight and if dirrell had fought with more balls he would of beat froch, i mean he had him ROCKED badly in that 11th round (think it was the 11th anyway) and should of finished him.

    Very talented fighter though.

    Much prefer to watch him than ward.