Greatest ever referee !

Puerto Ricans in general, have a strange affection for the bling!

 

Mills Lane, Frank Cappucinno, Steve Smoger, and recently Kenny Bayless are/were great referees. If you put a gun to my head I would choose Mills Lane.

 

Saw him work a lot in London ,very good no nonsense ref .

 

No it was Halpern. I liked Greene though.


Regarding Goldstein , it's perhaps worth remembering that Ruby was
critizised in some quarters for stopping the second Turpin/ Robinson fight too early,the fight was just after a recent ring tragedy, which might have influenced Goldstein's action.

Ref's are damned if they do ,and damned if they don't.

For example, I thought Richard Steele was correct in stopping the Taylor /Chavez first fight, many others disagreed vehemently.

The worst incompetence I have seen is the guy who officiated in the Duran / Moore fight, Ernesto Magana ,criminal.

I am not a fan of Octavio Meyran , or Joey Curtis either.

 

This.

 

You are not a fan of Double S??

 

Harry Carpenter wrote a strong defense of such stoppages, emphatically stating that one second and a single punch can mean the difference between life and death.

But in a disturbing prelude, Goldstein did allow things to go on way too long when Ingo dethroned Patterson. As soon as Floyd got up from that first knockdown and started walking unprotected towards a neutral corner under the confused impression that he himself had scored a knockdown, Goldstein should have immediately called a halt, just as Lou Magnolia did 30 years earlier when Loughran turned his back on Sharkey, or as Arthur Donovan did when Schmeling turned his back on Max Baer. The moment a distressed fighter turns his back, that should be all.

For Paret alone, some might be inclined to cut Goldstein some slack, and he did get an opportunity to work Rodriguez-Mims two years later. But for me, Ingo-Patterson I on top of Griffith-Paret III is too much, and it could have easily been Floyd who was killed by Johansson's second knockdown punch. (That cheap shot might be the most devastating knockdown I've ever seen a heavyweight get up from, and Patterson might be the greatest sportsman in heavyweight history to pass up a reciprocal cheap shot in regaining the crown. Burt Sugar said it when he died-the finest human being to ever hold the biggest prize in sports.)

I was no longer following boxing by then, but from what I understand, Taylor was in Willie Classen territory. The fact is that Meldrick, over four years younger than Chavez, did get a second chance four and a half years later, and got stopped in eight. (As a championship distance traditionalist, my own view would have been that Taylor had no hope of beating Chavez over 15. I'd have been more appalled that the truncated 12 round distance had robbed JCC of the win.)

Just now, I reviewed it from the knockdown to the end. Magana looks almost bored, utterly disinterested, as though he was missing his siesta.

All Curtis will ever be remembered for is robbing Mike Weaver of the WBA Title. (That act didn't do Dokes any favors either. It helped enable him to descend into the self indulgent abuse which eventually led to incarceration, and possibly even the liver cancer which now threatens to kill him. Does Dokes instead hold his nose close to the grindstone if the WBA crown comes hard to him, or if he never holds it at all? Maybe, but I still wonder.)

 

Truth be told, I never considered that one way or the other. Within this context, I think that's a plus. I'm certainly not a detractor.

 

mills lane is the best smoger second for me

joe cortez goes down as the worst for me

 

Cant go past Barney Wilson

After Barney, Mills Lane is the best and most consistent ive seen. The 'judge judy' of referees so to speak. Never took any **** and was always fair and impartial whilst always sticking to the rulebook. Cant get better than that. Noticed Cortez getting a little stick here. I always found Cortez to be a good ref regardless of what Hatton fans think (and i liked hatton).

 

Ahhh Sid Nathan! Havent heard that name in years. A good competent referee. Sid always looked about 90, great combover too. He was the daddy of UK refs for me, much better IMO than harry gibbs or roland deakin

 

I lost a little respect for him in the Hatton-PBF fight and the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight, other than that hes a superb ref.

 

If truth be told Paret was damaged goods after the beating Fullmer laid on him, we have the benefit of hindsight, Goldstein did not.

Goldstein should have at least had a closer look at Floyd, the sort of touch the gloves, and ask ," are you ok ", that is routine today.
If memory serves Ingo gets home two big free shots one to the throat and one to the back of the head, if Ruby had done his job, that would not have occurred.

I beleive the Taylor stoppage was correct,the ref is not a timekeeper ,his function is to safeguard the welfare of the fighters and, to make sure the rules are upheld.

Harry Gibbs, one of our best refs, criticized Mercante for not stopping the Frazier/ Foreman fight sooner, its in his book , " Box On", decent read.

I see, in my last Ring issue, Mercante Jnr is castigated for allowing the Cotto /Foreman fight to continue in spite of Foreman's corner throwing in the towel,I haven't seen the fight, so cannot comment.

 

i have no reason to respond as this is almost word for word what i'd want to write:deal

 

I'm not a fan of Joe Cortez. He seems to make a big deal out of minor things at times and ignores the very blatant things. He has too many "off nights" that everyone has to be considered one of the best refs in my opinion.