Better fighter: Johnny Tapia or Joe Calzaghe?

That was a genuine oversight. Everyone knows Joe won all the smw belts (even though he never held them all the same time or defended the unified title), and everyone knows he has been the greatest smw champ ever in terms of achievements at the weight, so I don't think my oversight will have affected anyone's vote or opinion, do you?

I scored the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight for Hopkins, I did indeed. I had him up by a couple of points last time I scored it, I just cannot score rounds for a fighter who doesn't land anything. That's my scoring system and always will be.

But I readily accept that Calzaghe finished his career with an official 'zero'; not that it matters much to me, as my own criteria for all-time greatness is based on resume, not statistics and sequences. If we all ranked fighters based purely on the length of their unbeaten run, then we would all rank Ricardo Lopez higher than Joe Calzaghe, wouldn't we? And I very much doubt that you do.

 

Yeah, but if your opinion requires as much thought as saying "he is a fighter" and "he is a boxer", then your opinion isn't worth wiping your ass on. :good

 

Calzaghe never unified all of the titles and defended those unified titles. He did at times hold each of them, but never reigned as an undisputed champion with all major belts. Clear enough? Goody.

Compubox is a pile of shite. It's two guys clicking keypads at ringside, it's about as scientific as a hamster-wheel. If you don't believe me, watch Pavlik-Taylor 1 then get back to me on the accuracy of the numbers Compubox produces.

And anyway, boxing clearly isn't and never has been purely about numbers. This isn't the amateurs. Hopkins landed the cleaner, more effective shots in more rounds IMO.

 

I disagree. Using the scoring criteria which I have always believed is the best and truest means of deciding a winner, I scored it for Hopkins based on his cleaner, more effective work.

 

Yawn. Hopkins is 43, the pace was getting to him, he was sneaking a breather. That has no effect whatsoever on how rounds are scored. If you think it does, you should re-evaluate your own scoring criteria. :good

 

Do you think Pavlik can force a pace like Calzaghe can?

Do you think Wright can force a pace like Calzaghe can?

It appears it is I who rate Calzaghe higher than you after all!!!! :nut

The speedy and superfit Calzaghe is far better at forcing and maintaining a high pace than the plodding Pavlik or the slowing Wright. I am astounded you don't seem to think so!!

 

I had Tapia a clear winner myself. I thought it was an excellent performance from him. Let me know what you think once you have re-watched.

 

Very, very odd that I rate Calzaghe's abilities higher than you do. What a turn-up for the books. I fear Headbanger, 46and2, and the rest of those trolls will be very disappointed in you.