Who else feels '11 Adamek would be tuff as nails for '53 Marciano? I sure as hell do.

As I said Wilimowski is widely underrated. He doesnt have as huge achievements as Lato, Lubanski or Boniek, but in terms of skills, he is ahead of them.

Do you speak polish? :huh
"Jako młody zawodnik zagrałem połowę meczu z Wilimowskim. To był jeden z najlepszych piłkarzy w historii futbolu" Gerard Cieslik

http://wolnemedia.net/historia/ernest-wilimowski-geniusz-czy-zdrajca/

 

This is why I say many (actually not that many) posters are ignorant. If somebody doesnt see the difference between Adamek from LHW (brawler) and Adamek from CW (his natural weight) and especially Adamek from HW (better skills, huge experience) than he should watch the fights.

Nobody has said he is close to Marciano. The topic is about today's version of Adamek giving Marciano a tough competetive fight.

 

I don´t think Adamek at hw is more skilled than before. He looks as if because hws on average are not that skilled, so compared to them he looks like it. The only "skilled" hw he fought yet was Estrada and this fight qas quite close and he didn´t beat him exactly on skills but on will, determination and heart.

 

He still gasses towards the end though.

 

This is a good point. However you are not right. Since Roger Bloodworth started training Adamek, he has been changing his fighting style. Roger wasnt his trainer prior to the Estrada fight (only was training with him for a few days). In the Estrada fight Adamek used to block punches. In the future fights (Arreola, Grant) he was trying to avoid them with more upper body balance, head movement and footwork. In his last two fights, Adamek also moved to the side and boxed circles. So the work that Roger did with Adamek was mainly improving the defense and adding more movement.

In the CW Adamek was boxing standing toe to toe (against punchers: Bell and Banks) or was moving forward and making the pressure (Cunningham).

 

This is all right but also not. He fights different at hw because he has to not because he is more skilled or better at it. He can´t go toe to toe with hws, so he has to rely on his speed advantage and skills - which, hwile still limited, are better than that fo most hws. He did show glances of everything he did before, he jsut did not rely on it because he easily got away with things that he is more comfortable with, that are more natural to him.

 

This is natural that smaller fighter who starts fighting at HW uses his movement and speed. But I see the Roger's work here too. And Adamek definitely has better defensive skills now. A lot of people didnt give him a chance at HW, because he was easy to hit at LHW and CW (against Cunningham). Now he is not easy to hit, but he is hard to hit. And this is both because he sees the punches earlier (as they are slower in that weight) and also he has improved his defense.

Compare Adamek's head movement in Arreola and Grant fights to the head movement from Cunningham fight. You will see the difference. In the European boxing style you mostly block punches, while in US boxing style you avoid them by your movement. Now Adamek benefits from that style.

 

I´m not saying he has not improved. I´m saying it looks better because his opponents are less skilled.

 

So he has improved but his skills are the same? Its illogical:huh

 

No it´s not. He is as skilled as before but those skills have improved.

 

-Adamek is tough minded and skilled. He has good foot work and punches in combinations.

-However he lacks power, reliable stamina, consistent defense, and takes unnecessary punishment to push the fight.

These flaws will get him killed against Marciano.

-Adamek certainly didn't look like a technical wizard against other boxers like Cunningham and Dawson. Outside of each other: Charles, Walcott, and Moore outclassed some of the greatest technical fighters of all time.

I'm an Adamek fan and I will be rooting for him against Vitali but he is not Walcott, Charles, and Moore. He may not even be a Chambers. Guy just isn't much of a cutie but he's a decent enough throw back to Holyfield's Warrior. He is a crowd pleasing gutsy fighter and I'm grateful for him.