Langford's Record Against Opponents his Own Size

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  1. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:I like it. Was that from Moyle's book?
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    :admincrap, those are some endorsements. the key for me and that those people for the most part actually had the opportunity to watch him live, fight him, or know him in his prime. we have no footage and these legends of the game, if they feel this way, are hard to disagree with
     
  3. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just judging by your reaction I would say that you absolutely HAVE to get the book on Langford. It's mind-boggling what Langford accomplished, even when half-blind and "hog fat"(a quote the newspapermen used often back then to describe the poorly-trained, disillusioned Langford of the late 10s-20s. Disillusioned from lack of ability to get a deserved title shot and having to fight the same guys over and over and over and over and......)
     
  4. Surf-Bat

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    It was published in the papers back then and widely circulated. It's a good one :smoke
     
  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    for sure! i first read of langford some years ago as the best fighter never to win a title. then gradually got a feeling for what he was capable of but got bogged down in his record and, unfortunately, his losses to bigger men. The classic has given me a better grasp of what he achieved, despite the limitations in both technique in his time and the lack of opportunities he was provided. the more langford i can learn, the better
     
  6. Senya13

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  7. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For what it's worth=
    I remember reading in an OLD Ring magazine an interview with the OLD
    fighter Sandy Ferguson,who was in the Ring with both Bob Fitzimmons and Sam Langford...In response to a question,"who would you pick between Fitz and Langford ", he replied , "Fitz, because his body punches, would
    tear apart Sam Langford ", for what it's worth...Interesting, that at the time of both of them , prime Fitz was more highly regarded than old Sam !
     
  8. Ringrat

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    Sandy Ferguson was an awful drunk in the last years of his ring career. I doubt he could really recall his fights with Fitz, Langford and the rest with any real clarity. Fitzsimmons, however, was a devastating puncher and could take a helluva shot himself. He sunk Sailor Tom Sharkey with a short body blow, and Sharkey was tough if nothing else. A fight at 160 betwen Fitz and Langford would be a real barney! I'd hate to have to pick a winner with a gun to my head.:think

    That being said, I'd put my money on Little Smoke to win inside 20 rounds.
     
  9. burt bienstock

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    This article was a quote from Ferguson while he was still fighting...He fought until 1916, and he died 3 years later in 1919...Ferguson was only 40 years old when he died...Hardly an old man...
    I would pick Fitzimmons, as he was regarded more highly by his peers
    than Langford was...Both were marvels of the ring...
     
  10. Surf-Bat

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    It's worth a LOT actually:good. I love stuff like that. Hearing from the sources is key. Which reminds me, I gotta post a new question....
     
  11. klompton

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    I have to disagree with Jeannette here. Its indisputable that Langford deserved a shot at Johnson but I really think Johnson's style combined with his size would have always given Langford a lot of problems. Laying back like that and waiting to counter, utilizing his reach, and tying Langford up on the inside. I have no problem with anyone who thinks Johnson would have won an ugly decision over Langford.
     
  12. Korean Hawk

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    Really insightful thread, be interesting to hear more about Langford.
     
  13. Jorodz

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    bump (cause i need more langford!)
     
  14. bman100

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    after seeing langofrd-jeanette, i really want to see langford-hague, ive heard its around somewhere, anyone here seen it? its funny, best p4p fighter in the history of boxing and we have 4 films of him...
     
  15. burt bienstock

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    There has been innuendos, that i have read declaring that Sam Langford "steered '
    away from meeting Prime Jack Dillon, who was called by some "the white Sam Langford"
    Jack Dillon was a bull of a man, built along the lines of "Tham Langford"..
    In 245 fight ,Jack the Giant Killer Dillon was stoppod only TWICE...
    Now that fight would have been one for the ages, both at similiar weights...WOW !