Incredible Stats On Lesnar

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  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I doubt that helped, but the guy didn't play in college. For a guy to not play any college football and make an NFL roster is next to unheard of. He was the last guy cut and told to go play in Europe for a year.

    The point is the problem had nothing to do with athleticism, he had more than enough of that.
     
  2. Spunik

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    Almost of unheard of literally is Stephen Neal (who didn't play college ball) who beat Brock in the NCAA finals and plays for the Patriots...
    he had better lateral movement than Brock, better footwork


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpyUgfNOM2I[/ame]



    Carlton Hasslerig, stud wrestler also played pro ball w/o playing in college....if he could have beaten Bruce Baumgartner he probably would have never played pro ball and opted for the Olympics much like Stephen Neal couldn't beat Kerry McCoy for the Olympic spot...
     
  3. achillesthegreat

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    He didn'y havr a background in it at all? Impressive.
     
  4. Manassa

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    Reckon either of them could have competed in World's Strongest Man, or would not be strong enough? Any other wrestlers?
     
  5. Beebs

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    Played in high school
     
  6. Beebs

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    Doubt it.
     
  7. kirk

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    I wish man....

    I hope Brock can at least keep his athletesism for a little while longer, i know hes not exactly young anymore but i cant think of his exact age. (early 30's?)

    anyways, Brock is a freak....

    I wonder why he was cut from the NFL? I think he was even cut from their practise squad or something if i remember right.....
     
  8. ufoalf

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    Out of 30 punches and elbows Carwin threw VERY few landed and did any kind of damage.. Watch the fight.
     
  9. kirk

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    Goldberg actually played the NFL, and was a starter. Brock i believe was cut....

    Brock would murder Goldber IMO, but Goldberg is a real athlete as well (doesnt mean hes a good fighter though).
     
  10. kirk

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    I honestly think Brock could have been better then Kerr, and if he sticks with it and actually improves from here on out (which i doubt, for some reason i think we will see a decline, I wouldnt think a monster like him, with a career in pro wrestling on his body and steroid use, will age well) but if he does continue to progress, i think he could surpass Kerr as it is.

    Just IMO
     
  11. kirk

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    questioned was answered i see, attitude and lack of experience. But i think he was on the line, besides knowing the plays i dont see why, if he was athletic and strong enough, he wouldnt have been kept on the team, unless it really was because of his attitude.

    anyways, im glad he failed at that because otherwise he wouldnt be in mma right now.
     
  12. James23

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    I have. Many times. You try it.

    Carwin, clearly, landed three elbows to Brock's face that were not obstructed by Brock's fists/forearms/elbows...the sheer force behind them I'm sure would have either knocked me out or caved my freakin' head in. And he very clearly lands very clean punches on Lesnar...

    I have zero idea what it is you're talking about, but I'm talking about the fight at UFC 116 - Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin. It's a good fight for Heavyweights, you should check it out.
     
  13. ufoalf

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    BS, when he landed those shots he was already, and CLEARly gassed. So unless you're 90lb girl, those hits wouldn't hurt you.

    Let me break this down for you. FYI, I'm not going to count shot that comes glazing off of a shoulder and into Lesnars face.
    First punch landed on Brocks cheek. Knee landed on his forehead. When he crumbled none of the punches landed. If you look carefully those punches are hitting his arms not the face. I'll give credit to Brock for defending VERY well, and I give Carwin r-**** points for wasting his short gas tank.

    Now at 3:39 on the clock Carwin FINALLY lands 3 shots WHILE being pushed off by Lesnar. I promise you those shots would only hurt the aforementioned mentioned 90lb girl.

    On 3:29, he does few uppercuts that were the last of his gas tank. First one was solid, second was good, third one didnt go through, fourth didnt, fifth Carwin has exhausted his left arm.

    Nothing happened until 3:01 where Carwin lands that one elbow on Lesnars brow. Yay, thats like 2nd shot that Carwin did any damage on, after about 30 punches?

    At 2:16 he lands a good elbow, but he definitely hit Lesnars hand. Landed another weak elbow after that. (That sums your three elbows, one of which was clear).
    At 2:05 lands a good punch on the cheek, I think that's the third one that did any kind of damage.

    I know you'll mentioned 1:55ish he either missed those shots or they were push punches. Carwin is spent.

    That pretty much sums up that whole "incredible" onslaught that Lesnar survived.

    Lesnar turtled up, defended very intelligently, than took over. Good ol' rope'a'dope.

    Two things that Lesnar did in that fight was
    A) Defending intelligently(even though it was beginning of the fight, he did NOT get hit on the chin before turtling up). Getting hit on the chin and the forehead are two different things by a ?hundredfold?, fyi.
    B) He did a goodarm triangle.

    He wasn't a douchebag after the fight. I'll believe that he's humbler person after couple of years of similar behavior.

    Please, don't give me that **** about him having a good chin, a lot of heart etc etc. When he shows that, I'll give him all the credit. I simply refuse jumping on the bandwagon until the guy proves himself in the manner, GSP, Fedor, A.Silva have.
     
  14. James23

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    I didn't even read all that just skipped to the end and saw, "Please, don't give me that **** about him having a good chin, a lot of heart etc etc. When he shows that, I'll give him all the credit. I simply refuse jumping on the bandwagon until the guy proves himself in the manner, GSP, Fedor, A.Silva have."

    Pretty tall ****ing order, don't ya think? I mean, the guy is 5-1. He's had 6 fights in MMA total in his career and can you think of a single fighter in the history of the sport who has had to face the constant level of competition he has? He's not exactly taking the easy route...

    And why wouldn't I say things like he's got heart and has a chin...? Why would that possibly be a bad argument? He clearly, and I do mean clearly, has both of those things. I don't get it at all...are you saying he doesn't...? Or don't want that as a counter-point? It makes no sense at all...
     
  15. ufoalf

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    Well, then we're even, cause that's the point I stopped at reading your ****.