Carlos Monzon: strenghts & weaknesses

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  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who are Monzon's best opponents on his record?

    Would SRR, Hagler, Greb and Hearns do away with them too?

    Plus, Greb beat or was competitive with Gene Tunney who was bigger than Monzon.
     
  2. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Paul, I don't think any other middleweight (besides Greb) could move up and beat a Gene Tunney...Do you?

    I think SRR, Hagler, and Greb beat Monzon's opponents...Hearns would problably outpoint Benvenuti, (old) Griffith, and Briscoe...Valdez? Rodrigo might get to Hearns...it is a pick em fight. Hearns has the ability to outpoint Valdez as well...But Valdez is a beast, he could stop Hearns.
     
  3. natonic

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    Griffith I & II
    Benvenuti I & II
    Valdes I & II
    Gratien Tonna
    Tony Licata
    Tony Mundine
    Jose Napoles
    Bennie Briscoe II
    Tom Bogs
    Denny Moyer
    Jean Claude Bouttier I

    I've seen all these fights on youtube. Not sure if they're all still there but most of them are.
     
  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    On the contrary, prats who base their picks in fantasy match-ups on how "icy-cool" somebody's stare was or how "ruthless" and "psychotic" their attitude was just need to get real. It's not about flashiness; it's about skills. Monzon didn't have any. Hence people start referring to bull**** mystique as an alternative.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ffs
     
  6. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Benvenuti and Valdez would end up like this

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM1w2VcZT3Y[/ame]
     
  7. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    And in your heart you know I'm right!
     
  8. McGrain

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    It actually reads like you are trolling the forum now. It's sort of gone past agenda posting now.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    Valdez KO % is only 57.53. Valdez has numerous journeyman on his record. Not exactly impressive.

    Briscoe, who started out as a welter weight has similar numbers.

    I would not call either guy big punchers at middle.


    Would you mind listing your top 30 middleweights?
     
  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Probably, though that's a natural consequence of disagreement.

    Agenda posting?? I don't have an agenda. I attack/defend all sorts of different fighters from all sorts of eras.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Would you Mendoza? I think that would be an interesting list.
     
  12. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    bodhi also thinks that Benvenuti is a Top 5 LMW, so don't expect too much.
     
  13. McGrain

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    More a result of your believing/pretending to believe that Monzon had no skill, was "never really hit hard" in his entire career and that all his opponents were ****, including Griffith, who just "plodded forwards" and only beat Dick Tiger because he was "on his death bed".
     
  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Briscoe had 53 knockouts. He could hit.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6UEzA1JRMA[/ame]
     
  15. McGrain

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    Yeah, Briscoe could definitely bang.

    He ended up with a higher KO% than either Ike Williams or Sam Langford. Those numbers just aren't everything.