Skills Pay the Bills: The Amazing Floyd

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  1. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wonder if that was caused by his age or having to fight a couple of div. above his natural weight:think
     
  2. Leon

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    What I don't understand is why he put on so much muscle. Wasn't his fight night weight 148? He looked flabby, and it made him even slower. Why not just come in lighter? He was already rehydrating up to welter back when he was still in the small man divisions.
     
  3. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post but how do you explain the Clottey fight. The only "odd" thing he did in that fight was land a double fisted shot. He couldn't open Clottey up with anything and just threw the same repetitive combinations all night long. I think it really goes to show Manny is most effective in exchanges where his superior hand speed grants him the edge. Another obstacle is moving targets. After the 5th round Cotto started to backpeddle and it really frustrated Manny to the point he lost his cool because he was less effective . Cotto is in no way, shape or form comparable to Floyd off the back foot and he still takes damage trying to evade shots. Manny just like any other human sets his feet when he throws a punch. I think Floyds stays moving to make Manny chase him and counters with set traps.

    Youre more than right about how Manny timed Cotto with his straight left so it could prove troublesome for Floyd as well but with a combination of movement, setting up and timing which Floyd does I really think he'll confuse Manny the whole Night. Floyd doesn't have a jab based off rhythm . He really baits his opposition into stepping into it. See rd 9 in the the Hatton fight and mostly any other fight for that matter. Floyd is really quite aware in the ring and has even stated he punches when his opponent breathes in.

    The fact of the matter is Floyd has no rhythm period . Thats why its hard for fighters to know what to expect and anticipate . Manny on the other hand is a very routinely rythimic fighter like Ricky but with explosion . He routinely circles to his right diagnolly to get his opponent to step in to his right hook like clockwork then explode to flurry. I truthly think Floyd will get a feel for manny and time him all night and and the fight plays out like mostly any of Floyds fights. Boxing clinic. I just don't think Manny is smart enough to think in the ring. He doesn't adapt to his opposition . He really just imposes his will by landing big shots and not so much tactics. The fact of the matter is he gets hit to hit while Floyd hits to not get hit. I truly feel Floyd dominates still.
     
  4. winterchill

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  5. Leon

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    emmanuel can be controlled with the a good jab, and Mr.Morales was the one to prove it. emmanuel can be hurt with great bodyshots like Morales and Marquez showed. When you fight a guy with a great chin, you want to go to the body first. Mosley successfully body raped margarito, no homo, before KO'ing him. Floyd will want to stay on the outside or in the pocket to smother emmanuel. The greater speed of Floyd's jab and right hands will come into play on the outside. emmanuel is not a good inside fighter for someone who is supposed to be an offense master. He is very distance sensitive. The angle advantages of being a southpaw is gone in the pocket. Mayweather is very good at throwing short punches.
     
  6. MATUBSKI82

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    then why he won't fight the midget?
     
  7. MATUBSKI82

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    seems like an excellent analysis, how come he won't fight the midget
     
  8. GOW7

    GOW7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think your just jugding me cuz I dont see it like you. Where was Mannys angles and intagibles you speak of during the Clottey fight? The fact of the matter is Manny was pretty much ineffective because Clottey didnt exchange with him. And where do you go off assuming Im a Dirrel fan and Chad Dawson fan because Floyd bull****. You really made yourself look stupid by assuming . Youre no expert.And I'm sorry but you tried to come up with Rocky bull**** . Its not like Pacquiao slips and rolls with punches. Angles and intagibles . See the Clottey fight . Come back more correct next time.:good
     
  9. GOW7

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    The body I didnt even want to mention yet. It really will be key note in the fight.
     
  10. MATUBSKI82

    MATUBSKI82 Active Member Full Member

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    i read all the technicalities in this thread how floyd is superior to pac which begs the question why fmj won't fight pac?
     
  11. StreetsofRAGE

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    Too bad nobody in boxing has the skill set of Mayweather. That's what sets him apart. He had a 1 inch advantage over Marquez. And a 5 inch reach advantage (or thereabouts).

    You think height and reach matter so much? What about Dawson vs Pascal. Dawson had a 2 1/2 inch height advantage and a 9 inch reach advantage. Result: Dawson got dominated.

    Height and reach don't matter as much as you pussies think. Skill is what matters. That is how Mayweather always wins. Not his size. He is 5'8'' he is not a big guy so shut your stupid face.
     
  12. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    all roads lead to Alfonso Gomez
     
  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Floyd is only slightly larger. There won't be no size excuse to use.