Fighting Harada vs Eder Jofre I

jofre is my top bantie.hard as nails

 

Jofre-Harada I was one of the fights that made a boxing fan of me...both I & II fascinate me. Jofre and Harada are the two best bantam champs in that high talent division.

 

I also watched this fight recently. I scored it 146-140 for Harada.

 

Like you, Addie, I got this one to learn more about Jofre, and was just as impressed with Harada. It's been a while now since I've watched it, but I was impressed with how Harada had hurt him in mabe the fourth round, and in the very next stanza had Harada wobbly, banging him with hard rights. Tremendous display of grit by both men, and more than a little skill.

If you haven't seen it, make a point to seek out the first Jofre-Medel fight. One of my favorites. What action...........

 

The rematch shows a slightly more amped up Jofre against a slightly less refined Harada, in my opinion. Not the same economy to his attack from what I recall. It's been a while, but again frrom what I recall I believe Harada may've been lucky to get the decision. I've mentioned this before, however, and not gotten many agreements. Maybe it's time to watch 'em both again.

 

I reckon these two fights should be the first ones to score, if we ever get around to getting a "classic forum scores close/controversial fights" thread.

Great fighters with widely different styles and the bouts aren't totally played out like Leonard Hagler etc.

 

No i thought Jofre had a better arguement for winning in the rematch as well.Funny because the first fight was the one i had been lead to believe was the most contentious.

 

I'd heard the same thing, which is perhaps the reasoning behind my confusion.

 

I actually felt both guys were lesser in the rematch. Obviously the first fight was a great match and the second bout never lived up to that IMO. Harada looked less focussed and Jofre struggled to do the things he wanted to do IMO.

I scored it about the same as the first encounter, if I remember correctly. But I felt the first was closer, if you understand?

I too, need to watch them again though.

Agreed.

What I love about the way these fights play out is that no-one is in a definite role, sure Harada is the 'swarmer' but he at times turns boxer behind the jab etc... Both guys show different dimensions in their games in the one fight.

I disagree.

 

My cards:

Fighting Harada vs. Eder Jofre I: 144-141 Harada
Jofre: 3,5,8,10 and 14.
Harada: 1,2,4 ( 10-8 ) ,7,9,12,13 and 15.
Rounds 6 and 11 even.



Fighting Harada vs. Eder Jofre II: 144-143 Harada
Jofre: 1,2,4,7,10 and 12.
Harada: 3,5,6,9,13,14 and 15.
Rounds 8 and 11 even.

 

For once we don't disagree that badly. You tallied up your card wrong I think, should it not be 145-141? Interestingly if I scored some of the rounds to Jofre that you did, Jofre would have won on my card.

Harada:1,2,3,4(10-8),7,9,10,12,15
Jofre: 5,6,8,11,13,14
Total: 144-140 Harada (9-6)

Just re-watched this first fight. Just superb.

I'll do a wee review of it.

In the early rounds Harada is feeling out Jofre by pressuring him quite harshly with fast in and out combo's, almost swarming him, but keeping the control of the range by the use of his superb foot work and speed. This dynamic attack is not letting Jofre get set to do anything and he just cannot seem to time or fathom out Harada in the first 2 rounds except from a few good counter left jabs in the second round.

The third was closer as Harada is a bit lackadaisical and Jofre gets in a few good counters, but crucially, and you will see why, Harada gets that fast left jab pumping that seems to off-set Jofre's attacks superbly. In the fourth Harada starts with almost exclusive left hand work as he doubles the jab and hooks of it, this leads Jofre to become over wary of the left side and Harada manages to stun him with a sneaky right uppercut. Harada swarms all over his man and wins the round massively.

Jofre recovers very quickly in the fifth but Harada starts the round in control with his left hand work, keeping control of the range and keeping the pressure on Jofre. Jofre battles back well and stuns Harada with hard combinations off of counters. In the sixth Harada is a bit wary after being stunned and they both trade jabs. Jofre is able to get punches off after his own jab, and as counters to Harada's, and lands some very sharp blows. Harada regains control in the seventh as he get's his combinations going again as he darts in and out, he can't escape a few well placed counters from Jofre, but generally is in complete control.

The ninth is a good round as Harada starts off with his combinations but some hard Jofre counters rock him and Jofre is able to get some hard left hooks on Harada. Harada recovers in the next round and controls the range superbly, making it very hard on Jofre to time him and Jofre misses wildly on more than one occasion. It is similar in the tenth as Jofre shows his control and Jofre begins to look very frustrated. In the eleventh Jofre begins to 'box' behind his left hand and does fairly well, Harada lands some sharp combinations but is generally quite passive, looking to rest in the round. The twelfth is similar and very close as the action dulls for a round. Harada lands some nice jabs but Jofre tries to push the action and is a bit more aggressive. In the thirteenth Harada sharpshoots from long and mid range with some fast combo's as Jofre looks to press the action and lands some nice shots himself. Jofre does well in the penultimate round as he times Harada quite well when he flurry's and lands some nice counters. In the fifteenth Harada turns it on and swarms all over Jofre to take the round.

 

Thanks for picking that up. There's quite a few of these errors popping up on my score sheets over the years, I've been picked up on it about 3 or 4 other times here too. You won't be surprised to know that I failed year 11 maths at high school

I will bookmark this and keep your take in mind next time I watch the fight. :good

 

Happens to the best of us.

Good, I like discussing fights with you, as we have differing takes on the action and the way to score it. Always good for variety and that broadens horizons.