Gamboa's worst fight

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  1. soycubanitooo

    soycubanitooo Member Full Member

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    Look tired, without power and usual speed. Out of control to the point to hit opponent on head while n the floor. His defense was on purpose really bad bringing him back to the amateur era. That leads me to believe that Gamboa is not respecting his trainer. In my opinion Gamboa must do what Rigo and Lara did...change your trainer and get an experience American one. Salido was a B fighter and expectation was very high for a high profile Gamboa. This fight needs to be very well review by his team because in my opinion Gamboa career is in danger if does not make the right adjustment at this point. Sorry Gamboa, brother....you need a new trainer because there is no discipline in your boxing, that was a very bad fight for such a skillful fighter like you!
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His biggest problem is that he literally has no defense. It's going to cost him, someday. Fortunately for him, I don't see there being any real elite fighters in his division. Lopez is overhyped... so is Caballero. They'll all make for exciting fights, but it's possible that no one around the division has the ability to exploit Gamboa's terrible defense.
     
  3. kirk

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    He looked exactly the same, same speed, same pop, same everything. The only differene was the man in front of him, and that he got taken out of his comfort zone. Gamboa is an easy fighter to peg and if he doesnt iron himself out more, which based on his attitude, he wont, then hes not going to make it as far as him or his fans think. He reminds me a bit of Judah in all honesty, someone with all the physical tools but lacks certain internal qualities that are makings of a great champion, along with just simple fundamentals that are building blocks within a fight.

    Just IMO though. Maybe his attitude will change when hes up against someone that gets his juices flowing, like a Juanma, and we will see a different Gamboa in there, im sure its hard to get up for fighters on a lower level time in and time out, but this WAS a unification fight.

    anyways, i guess we will see. I hope they make one of these meaningful fights before one of them lose.
     
  4. Marnoff

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    Good comparison with Judah. Both are incredibly cocky/confident and that has prevented them from improving their deficiencies.
     
  5. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    You just can't blow everyone out in d first round, Salido is not a pushover and all his loses were when he was a teenager, he even went d distance with JM Marquez, and Gamboa got him in real trouble in d last 3 rounds while hurting him in in d 2th or 4th round, I agree it is room for improvement, but tell me which fighter with 18 fights under his belts is fighting this kind of boxers, just check Gamboa's resume and tell me if you c any opponent with a losing record, this fight will only make him better, and he won easy.
     
  6. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should not have come in at 140 at fight night ,I don't know what the hell he was eating but I bet he won't do that **** again.Fighters know what slows them down doing a fight trust me been there done that.He gained 14 lbs ,thats not Gambao at all that extra weight made him slow after the 5th round.
     
  7. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    His trainer did as much as he could. Gamboa stuck with the gameplan for 3 rounds and then went back to his old style which is always going to look bad against a swarmer.
     
  8. pinolero1981

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    I too was disappointed with Gamboa. I expected him to overpower Salido and finish him off early. I expected him to be brilliant, showing his great combinations, speed, agility, stamina, and power as well as an improved discipline and defence. Although there were times he showed flashes of this brilliance, there were also times where I saw a fighter fighting dirty and lacking the mentality to be world class. Hitting Salido after the bell rang, hitting him after he was knocked down twice (after the first knock down Gamboa still hit him but didn't get a deduction and of course after the second knock down), and wrestling him showed the bad side of Gamboa. My conclusion is that Salido was such a tough opponent for him that he reacted on instinct and his instinct brings back that old habbits he had.

    If he wants to improve, he has to have more composure and be smarter in the ring. He has to stop putting his hands down. He has to stop trying to showboat. He has to know when to be a boxer and when he has to be "El Ciclon". Overall, I don't think he is at the level I thought he was. He should take a close look at this video. He has to receive well his criticism in order to improve.
     
  9. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    And you learn, he still is in d learning process, he fought a very dangerous fighter, and with all d criticism he won almost every round, dropping salido 3 times in d fight, althought Cortez only counted one, d only negative thing I saw last night was the hitting on d floor thing, it was uncall for it, and he was winning d fight going away, IMO Salido didn't got koed because first d headbutt which gave him time to recup, and then d foul.
     
  10. garfios

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    I saw an improvement all in all, but he has more room 4 improvement, I'll ask u this, he is not a polished prof. just yet, still he is whooping some very dangerous fighters along d way, about how many fighters could you say d same, Juanma is there already, he will not learn anything else, Salido, Caballeros etc.. they r where they are and will not learn anything more, gamboa on d other hand has d potential to learn alot more and he is already, an elite fighter, how scary could that b,.
     
  11. pinolero1981

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    I agree that he is still learning and it is scary giving what he has now. I just hope that he is guided in the right direction. His people have to work with him to make sure he maintains discipline.
     
  12. fighter86

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    Yes and true ,but featherweights coming in at 140 is way too much ,I can see a fighter like Saliso coming in at 140 He's a veteran ,but an up coming fighter like Gamboa is too much.these fighters nowadays are making so much money ,that they are not watching their weight.If he came into the ring weighting 140 that means his walk around weight is 145 or more and it could be he wasn't in the best shape he could have been.No excuses for Gamboa but when your on this level you got to come correct.
     
  13. BigBone

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    I do agree that he needs an experienced pro trainer, Ronnie Shields wouldn't be a bad choice now that his buddies are training with him, or maybe Roach who handles natural talents pretty well (I wonder why they never joines forces, looks like a boxer-trainer relationship made in heaven). But Gamboa did good in a step up vs. a very experienced titleholder, and won like 10 rounds plus came close to close the show. I don't think he looked worse than vs. Barros for example, he just showed his usual bad habits, which is a cause for concern, but I don't think it's because he doesn't respect his trainer. A professional environment with the kind of teacher and sparring that could improve Gamboa's timing, overall defense, strategic thinking, shot selection etc. is something that seems necessary, I think the dedication for the sport is there.
     
  14. fighter86

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    I also saw in this fight as i watch it again Gamboa did a lot more holding normal than he did in any of his other fights ,too much weight for him.
     
  15. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Every boxer that has faced Gamboa, they all had said d same thing, "this is not the amateurs" still Gamboa has won almost every round, can you imagine when this "amateur prospect" finally learns the tricks of d pros.