Wlad, while dominant still looks very vulnerable.

In what sense? His defence is very much reliant on his own offensive skills. His range control and jab is good enough to keep guys off him. When it comes to his actual defence, he can pick punches off well and tie-up to prevent his opponent throwing bombs in range in the first place.

I haven't seen the rematch yet, but in terms of head-movement, the Ruslan Chagaev fight didn't show to me Wlad being uncomfortable with head-movement. Chagaev was constantly moving his head and upper-body behind a tight-guard and Wlad's timing was impeccable which deemed it meaningless.

His left-hand on his opponent as you said keeps the distance and that is the far most important thing for somebody with Wlad's size, reach and ability to impose his technical skills and jab from the outside. It also keeps his opponent a bit off-balance and unable to really set shots.

As said, his defence isn't exactly bad when he's in range. Watch Peter I and the number of left-hooks he picked off with minimal effort. When in range, he can see punches and block well. But yes, his defence is based on his ability to control range and tie-up. And? It works. That's plan A. If they do break his reach, he can defend himself no problem.

Wlad isn't exactly slow and cumbersome like Valuev. The disparity in speed - if any - between Haye and Wlad is not great enough that Haye would be able to move in and out of range. You canoot compensate for Wlad's precise timing or Haye's defensive frailties in that regard. He would get punished if he tries to move inside against Wlad.

 

I wan who Necks!

 

lol at KobeIsGod avatar

 

Peter's head movement early on did bother Wlad. It neutralized the jab. But Wlad used his physical advantages to smother Peter's offensive output. His punch, smother, punch, smother approach would have frustrated the hell out of Tyson as well. But Tyson was on a whole other level from Peter, so who knows if he would have been able to use his speed to get inside on Wlad and KO him. Everyone asks how Wlad would have responded to Tyson's power, but no one asks how Tyson would have responded the first time he got hit with one of Wlad's right hands.

 

I disagree completely. GAMBOA is the only fighter expected to win that appeared vulnerable this weekend. klitschko completely dissected peter. the only real vulnerability in wlad is his lack of inside skills and his chin, but he solves that with distance and his usually quick choice to wrap his opponent up

 

Watching that last night tells me more that haye will k.o wlad with the left hook.

 

When you said he was vulnerable, I thought you were referring more to the fact he looked vulnerable in this era. Not bringing up a prime Tyson.

 

Woah, you beat me to it. Perfect! You really addressed the Chageav point which was very frustrating. A lot of head-movement but hardly the forward aggression to make use of it. But that's not his temperament or comfort to do so. Peter tried to test that in Wlad but doesn't have the speed, skills, or in-fighting to really take advantage of him.

 

Agreed, his jab and largely his offense are is defense. As well as his excessive illegal holding.

And the mere fact Peter doesn't have the skill, speed, or ability to string punchers together and even take advantage of getting in position. I won't even get into his accuracy.

Reminds me of when Ali did this to Frazier and Frazier knocks the pawed jab down with his right hand and crashes in with a left hook. You need speed and explosion to counter this considering his height. Not many can.

Harsh, and basically something to be determined. He really is one of the least tested HW Champions of all time. And he's on that way to becoming an ATG if he isn't already.

Tyson would've killed him.

I can too.

:good

 

I will watch the fight tomorrow anyway and comeback to add some comments.

 

Man any fighter that "supposedly" has a "chance" is running scared right now.........the guy BRUTILIZED Peter and KHTFO


This **** has to stop. Haye looks vurnerable against bums. Atlas is scared, Haye is scared.


He is the best right now............give it up.

 

I think both the klits are there for someone who gets it right on the night, haye it seems has the tools to make a good go of it but i always said haye is a spoofer and never really believed he wanted to make those fights, haye will only take the klit fights when all other options are exhausted i think and even then im still not so sure he will, hes full of excuses about why not to fight, its simple really, if you want to fight then take the 50/50 and stop moaning about wlads CONTRACT, wlad is contracted to rtl and thats it, they will both make millions regardless so hes just looking for excuses imo, now he say the klits are ducking him!!

 

Tyson was vulnerable to inside fighting (Douglas + Holyfield)

Ali was vulnerable to pressure fighters (A five foot eleven Frazier)

So apart from hatin' on Wlad what's your point?