was jorge vaca a elite fighter?

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  1. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    when i first read about jorge, i thought of him as a journeymen who fought the fight of his life against honeyghan to win the wbc title and then was stopped in the rematch. but when i look at his record

    loss to terry norris sd

    two victory over quincy taylor

    victory over mark breland

    victory over older pipino cuevas


    i over looked his class, was he a elite fighter?
     
  2. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends what you consider elite? Definitely a legit and dangerous welter but while short in the skills department he had a lot of experience,grit and above average power also a sneaky right hand. He was capable of beating a good fighter if they werent at their best but was also beateable and kind of slow. Kind of like a Baldomir with a better punch but not as good a chin.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, he was not an elite fighter.
     
  4. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sharp assessment:good
     
  5. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    definitely not elite, but a good fighter, just has a terrible glass jaw.
     
  6. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's been a while since I've seen it, but didn't Simon Brown stop him with a series of bodyshots?
     
  7. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    same level as a clottey or a mckinney
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Id say both those guys were better than Vaca. Especially Mckinney.

    Like i said earlier Carlos Baldomir without the chin but better power.
     
  9. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    About same class as Margarito & Aquino. good for his day, but not elite. Cuevas would have dispatched him rather quickly in his prime.
     
  10. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He stopped him with a series of just about every horrific punch in the book. A brutal pasting.
     
  11. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    Not at all. He just had respectable power to go with. Killed Dracula in Guadalajara.
     
  12. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your giving Vaca too much credit here and shortchanging Margo and Aquino. Both those guys are better than Vaca. Aquino could really bang and had a good chin also had better skills than Vaca. As for Margo skill wise they are similar but Margo is way tougher!!!

    I agree that a prime Pipino would have blown out Vaca.
     
  13. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    vaca was just a hard working fringe contender who got slightly lucky against Honeyghan imo.same kind of level as someone like Bobby Joe young.Bigger hitting, less durable Baldomir is a good comparison.
     
  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was knocked out 20 times.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Simon Brown break the ****ing **** out of Vaca. :lol:

    That's one of the most brutal ass kickings I can think of.