Where is Wlad on the ATG heavyweight list right now?

LOL >.. ridiculous. The USA is 66% white (non-hispanic). The country would be THRILLED IF a high level white athlete was impressively performing. Why do you think guys like Favre and Brady are so well considered? Or, why guys like Roger Clemens and before him Nolan Ryan were so highly respected.

The strength of America is that it is not homogeneous. That 66% consists of Poles, Germans, English, Irish, Italians, French, Russians, Welsh, Scots, etc., etc., etc.


Wake up ... you couldn't be more wrong.

 

Is that why you think Ali's era was rated so high because he didn't "dominate" every single fight he was in?

 

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:happy:happy I am watching the Dallas game, then in this order I will watch Hung, then True Blood, then Entourage

 

White Americans have a tremendous amount of self-guilt due to the ravages of slavery and the evil Jim Crow era that ensued. It is a mark of their evolution as a people and should be viewed as a positive. The HEAVYWEIGHT champ is the dominant, alpha male in the world and U.S. white folk of the modern era understandably shy away from getting behind such a powerful warrior image. They prefer men like Phil Donahue; passive, intellectual, verbose and most importantly unthreatening.

 

LOL .. that's absurd.

The reality is that athletes over here are simply not as bigoted and outwardly racist as dumb asses on ESB. Anyone who has actually participated in college/university sports has seen first hand that a mere 13% of our population is highly represented beyond their proportion within the population and includes a large number of very high quality athletic talent. Often the best combination of speed with power comes from this segment of our population.

I think you have the issues - in your imagination.

If Wlad or Vit were 5'10" and weighed 225 and were blowing away larger opposition (even in a gradually declining sport) they would be respected and watched. When you are larger than your opposition (and your opponents are simply terrible) and you have to clinch or fight timidly in boring affairs you don't get praised and you don't attract fans - it has nothing to do with skin color. White athletes aren't going to be impressed by these kinds of performances merely because another white guy is doing it.

 

Not really. You seem to be the one who is constantly pointing to black athletic superiority. Seems a bit rascist to me. In any event young white folk elected a black man to the highest office in the land, in no small part, due to white guilt The man had no real qualifications and now black unemployment and unemployment in general is through the roof. I will end this discussion now as I don't argue with politically correct dunderheads who see everything through the prism of race. If you think Wlad sucks as a fighter and isn't a top heavyweight that is fine, but I do and I assure you it has nothing to do with his skin pigmentation.

 

That's the point. The haters can't admit that Wladimir is a top 15 ATG Heavyweight but they'd have a hard time naming & justifying 15 better Heavyweights, let alone the fools that are claiming he's just top 30 or 50.

 

Please, who did Holmes fight that wa s so impressive?
Also, Louis?
I don't get it.

 

This post is ridiculous. Congratulations.

Brett Farve holds many NFL records & Nolan Ryan holds MLB records and both he & Clemens are ATG pitchers regardless of them being white or not. Doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

 

Correct. Brit SillyWilly is a racist and no one takes him seriously. Any surprise that he's a big Haye fan? :rofl

 

i THINK we agree. that's what i'm saying: holmes doesn't have one great signature win. sadly, it may be cooney

louis has a number of wins over guys like walcott, schmeling and baer. all very high ranking heavyweights. but baer and schmeling were well past best and walcott likely from reports deserved that win. it's louis' longevity rather than signature wins that impresses