How Good was Felix Trinidad?

William Joppy is not a very good fighter at all

 

Technically, Trinidad was lousy... But, at 147, he was big and strong, so he kicked ass with power there... At 154 to 160, Trinidad was ordinary... Especially at 160 pounds... YET! Still game... However, in a time machine at 147 pounds, both "Leonard and Hearns" beats Trinidad's ass hard for the KO stoppage....

Trinidad did indeed get a gift over DLH on PPV back in '99... DLH out-classed and exposed Trinidad's questionable skills in 1999...

MR.BILL

 

I don't think Trinidad was poor technically. He had a good heavy jab, threw nice combinations, including that double left hook, picked his shots well. He got proper leverage behind his shots.

What I thought was poor about him were mid-fight adjustments and footwork.

 

Trinidad couldn't fight going back and could become frustrated. Overall, I am a fan and think his best was at 147. I'm still on the edge on whether to see him as an ATG or not.

 

I like Trinidad.

Charisma, fire power, and willingness to go out on his shield if necessary.

Oscar "ran" in their fight.

Gotta rate Tito over ODH.

 

Trinidad over Oscar??? lmao what a disgrace

just look at this Oscar has a great resume.


Oscar de La Hoya wins


Jorge Paez
John John Molina
Rafael Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
Jesse James Leija
Julio Cesar Chavez x2
Pernell Whitaker
Hector Camacho
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Wilfredo Rivera
Ike Quartey
Oba Carr
Arturo Gatti
Javier Castillejo
Fernando Vargas
Luis Ramon Campas
Felix Sturm
Ricardo Mayorga



losses


Bernard Hopkins KO
Floyd Mayweather SD
Felix Trinidad SD
Manny Pacquaio TKO
Shane Mosley UD
Shane Mosley SD




Felix Trinidad wins

Maurice Blocker
Hector Camacho
Luis Ramon Campas
Oba Carr
Pernell Whitaker
Oscar De La Hoya
Fernando Vargas
William Joppy
Ricardo Mayorga


losses

Bernard Hopkins TKO
Winky Wright UD

 

trinidad was a great fighter,

he beat three gold medalist and was the first to ever beat pernell whitaker convincingly imo. his left hook was so heavy and compact. record against champions/titlist is 13-3

 

Aside from the fact that Oscar bitched out the last 4 rounds because he wanted no part of exchanging with Tito.

 

A great yet flawed fighter.

He had an awesome offensive arsenal,great power,heart and a willingness to test himself against the best.

For the negative he had a so so chin,leaky defense,pedestrian footwork and couldn't make mid fight adjustments if his power wasn't working for him.

Still all in all a damn entertaining fighter to watch.

 

One of my favorites when I started following the sport and I still thoroughly enjoy popping in a DVD of Tito fighting and watching him bombs dudes the **** out.

A very good near great fighter at 147. Borderline top 10 and I actually consider him quite high in H2H rankings...against the more stationary and technically limited fighters the division has seen, even the highest level ones, I dont see him losing all that much. Of course the movers and cuties who dont have terrible durability is whats going to trouble him, even some fighters of that ilk you wouldnt consider on Tito's level alltime are going to probably upset him.

Among the very best offensive fighters ever from that stacked division...As has been mentioned not the best ring IQ but his physical gifts and reasonably good schooling meant he rarely needed to call upon it.

As for the Tito-Oscar fight..I scored it for Oscar, I saw him as the better fighter on the night. I do not consider that a loss for Oscar but at the same time I dont think it was decisive enough to consider it a win for him either. Unlike say for instance Pea-Chavez, which I put down as a clear win for Whitaker. Tito-DLH is one of those fights I think I just sort of look on as a no-contest when considering both guys resume at the weight.

 

Yet he still managed to outland Tito significantly. :huh

 

I know im going against popular opinion here but i think he might have peaked at 154. He still had awesome power,timing and everything he had at Welter and didnt have to worry about making weight. I agree he slipped a little when he moved to middle.

Id say Tito is a top 70 atg.

 

In those last 4 rounds?

I dont recall that to be honest.

 

Would have been better in a 15 round setting where his marathon-esque stamina would have kicked in and submerged quite a few foes. Whilst DLH clearly beat Tito, I think Trinidad probably would have taken him out with three more rounds to go, and he probably would have bombed Quartey out too in a war over the long haul. I think he beats Forrest and Mosley too to be honest.

Trinidad however can't be regarded in the upper echelon of welterweight greats I don't feel. He had too many weaknesses as have already been mentioned (chin would be a liability against some of the bigger welter hitters who had sturdy chins themselves, fairly limited footwork, less than stellar defense, fairly limited inside fighting ability etc.).

Beyond that though, he simply didn't face enough quality during his day. No Quartey, no Jose Luis Lopez, no (relevant) Whitaker, no McGirt, no Espana. His welterweight reign was subpar by any historical measure taking away the DLH 'win' (which I wouldn't class as a win). I don't think it even rates a mention in the top 50 welterweight's accomplishments all time.

Was somewhat overrated over welterweight I feel, though he did notch a few nice wins, the peak being Vargas, who was a better fighter back in the day than most remember him to be....