Joe Frazier vs. Wladimir Klitschko

I don't think they would handle Frazier's pressure well but I'm undecided on who I think would win in either Vit/JF or Wlad/JF matchup. Just thought I'd share this it's cool.

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I never considered myself a Frazier fan but I have rooted for him awhile ago when watching him versus Ali and due to me being a big Armstrong fan, I like Frazier's style.

 

Open a window, I smell a room full of bull**** here.....:dead

MR.BILL:hat

 

I don't. I probably agree with that as well.
wlad has the better chance

 

No body really knows how good Vlad really is. What would Ali do with him, What would Louis,Marciano,Lewis or Dempsey do with him. What would Frazier do with him did any of them ever fight a fighter with his skill and his size,conditioning and power and GREAT jab. They may have had the edge mentally but I remember a lot of people saying Ali was weak mentally after the Cooper-1 split glove story and the way he went down hard on his ass from the left hook from the 184lb Cooper but then he went on to beat Liston. You can never tell what would come out of Vlad in a Super-fight match-up...Haye has some risk but I don't think Haye wants the Big Millions he would get for this fight.

 

Klit KO 12 Frazier.

 

An outside fighter who can't fight inside VS Joe Frazier...let's think about this. Size regardless, I don't see Wladimir dealing with Frazier or even Dempsey.

 

Frazier easy.

 

Frazier knocks Wlad out

 

In a 12 round fight i'd say its a 50/50 chance, either Frazier knocks Klitsckho out, or Klitschko wins a decision.

If it goes 15, then Fraziers knocks him out 9/10 times.

 

This is a really interesting fight for me...Joe has the style of offense to have success vs Wlad, but he also has a tendency to take some punishment to get to where he's comfortable. While Wlad usually doesn't focus on the uppercut, I have no doubt he'd be smart enough to do it in preparations with Frazier, but if he throws the telegraphed ones he threw vs Peter, Joe could time him and use that trademark left hook to great effect.

The keys for the fight for me boil down to..

-Whether Frazier lasts long enough to wear down Wlad? Joe never KO'd a bigger heavyweight early, and he'd have to absorb heavy shots to get his own effective left hook in against a guy with an 8 inch reach advantage and knockout power in both hands. Conversely, Frazier's stamina is superior here- the longer he makes it last, the better his chances of grinding down Wlad if he can survive what he'll take to get inside.

-Distance. The obvious factor, of course. Joe's not winning this at range, and I see Wlad copying Ali's "octopus" defense on the inside. Frazier needs to make him pay when Wlad's initiating the clinch and while he's in it, otherwise Wlad's content to smother him for the duration- which could negate some of Joe's conditioning advantage if he's successful.

-Mobility. Ali made things easier for Joe by not moving much or turning in their first fight- a stationary target makes it too easy for Frazier to time you, no matter the handspeed you bring to the table. A mobile, bigger target could matador him. Wlad would have to utilize his footwork to make life tough for Frazier.

All in all, it'd be a damn good fight.

 

I think if Wlad is to beat Frazier it´s late. To do this he needs a ref allowing an extensive amount of holding. Frazier needs to get under Wlad´s jab to do damage and when he does so Wlad will tie him up, clinch and lean on him. With Wlad´s size this will tire Joe out quickly and I can see Wlad taking advantage of that and TKOing him late.

However I don´t think this will happen.

 

I still go with Smoking Joe, although Wlad's career ain't over yet. If Povetkin looks real good after what Atlas does with him, or Boystov puts up a graet fight, those might alos be figths that give us some clues.

 

Good post. It would be a very interesting fight.

 

Wlad knocks him out, he'd land the jab and right and Frazier isn't taking that many of those right hands. Frazier has a puncher's/pressure fighters chance, especially against the pre-Steward Wlad, but he needs to be able to take Wlad's punches, I don't think he will the size difference is massive Frazier's defense is going to see him get hit and Wlad hits hard for his weight

 

you guys really think the way fraizer came right at you would work with wlad..it was terrible aganst big power punching men..look at the foreman fight.....wlad would do the same thing....shove Joe off when he did get clsoe..work jabs and uppercuts.....but the size would be even greater then foreman frazier..bad bad match up.