RJJ where ATG?

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  1. kolokomandos

    kolokomandos GLASS IS NOT AN OPTION Full Member

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    Always been wondering, his unique style and KOs were something I never seen anywhere on this planet and doubt we'll ever see. Not counting the last fights, surely prime would win these.

    But gimmie your option. :cool:
     
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  2. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    40-50
     
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    would have been top 20 if he had retired after ruiz.
     
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  4. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually think you could have made a case for top 5 and im not even close to being a big jones fan. RIght know though id put around 20.
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I hate it when people do this. Was Ray Robinson knocked back for his late stage losses? Was Armstrong? ...I don't understand this mentality. You cannot erase accomplishments, or what you were in your prime, because of CLEARLY past prime losses. Nobody says "If Ali just retired before losing to Spinks..."
     
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  6. Dizzle

    Dizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Top 70. His achievements at heavy are vastly over rated. All he did was beat a poor top ten heavy. If Armstrong had fought and beat a top 10 heavy no one would think anything of it. Its just the alphabetti spaghetti makes people believe he was the heavyweight champ.
     
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  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    No one believes he was THE heavyweight champion and tell me you don't mean Hank Armstrong...
     
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  8. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    :lol:
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    GTFOH

    Top 70 my ass.

    that dude is top 20.

    Can i see your top 70 list:admin
     
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  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I think Dizzle is really Bert Sugar.
     
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  10. Dizzle

    Dizzle Active Member Full Member

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    All im saying is it was a nothing victory and would have been a waste of time for his legacy had it not been for an alphabet belt. The belts are ruining the sport and make it impossible to objectively rate fighters. Like Pacquiao beating top 5 ranked Diaz at lightweight or Mayweather Baldomir or David Haye beating SNV.
     
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  11. Dizzle

    Dizzle Active Member Full Member

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    You really want me to list out 69 fighters who I rate higher than Roy Jones?
     
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  12. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    This guy must be trolling, bert sugar is not that bad.
     
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  13. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Yes please.

    im having diffuilculty thinking of 70 beter then jones.


    help me out.
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I think he rated him in the eighties, last I checked. With Dempsey waaaay the **** higher. :patsch
     
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  15. Dizzle

    Dizzle Active Member Full Member

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    duran
    SRR
    SRL
    Hearns
    Hagler
    Frazier
    Ali
    Foreman
    Henry Armstrong
    Jack Johnson
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Benny Leonard
    Holmes
    Lewis
    Louis
    Marciano
    Dempsey
    Wlad Klitschko
    Michael Spinks
    Pacquiao
    FMJ
    Hopkins
    James Toney
    Barrera
    Morales
    Salvador Sanchez
    Pernell Whittaker
    Azumah Nelson
    Arguello
    Lew Tendler
    Willie Pep
    Ken Buchanan
    Sam Langford
    Gans
    Stanley Ketchel
    Harry Greb
    Carlos Monzon
    Evander Holyfield
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Gene Tunney
    Napoles
    Gavalian
    Archie Moore
    Jimmy Wilde

    To be honest Im running out of names and the ones Ive listed arent in any particular order....
    If I was going to rack my brain all day then Im sure I could come up with at least 60 Id rank higher and RJJ would be around 70th neck and neck with Tyson etc
     
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