Why Wlad will never be considered even a great heavyweight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MrWonderful, Sep 14, 2010.


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  1. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chagaev only just beat John Ruiz, BEFORE he faced Wlad. He nearly lost that fight.

    Ibrahahmovic had a controversial draw to Ray Austin on his resume, before Wlad faced him.

    These are like the two best guy's he's faced.

    Seen how easily Haye beat Valuev and Ruiz?

    How easily Adamek beat Arreloa

    These are two 210 pound cruiserweights, with no experience at the weight.

    Wlad isn't even the best heavyweight, of the worst era in the sports history. Everyone knows Vitali would batter him
     
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  2. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John Ruiz nearly beat the guy. That's my point
     
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  3. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    unfortunately for him he doesnt have those other superstars to make him a legend.....the HW division is at an alllllll time low!
     
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  4. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Haye robbed SNV.
     
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  5. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can you please start talking sense.

    Wlad's career wins are against Chagaev and Ibrahimbovic

    Guys who with near losses to Ray Austin and John Ruiz on their resumes, before they even fought Wlad.

    It's not hating.

    It's just talking facts. The fact that his fans just overhype it all.

    Corrie Sanders *****, won't be going to any all time great lists
     
    MrWonderful, Sep 14, 2010
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  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair to Wlad he's fought just about everyone he could.
    Not his fault the division is shite.
     
    BoxingFanNo1, Sep 14, 2010
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  7. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If the superstars were about, I doubt he'd even hold a world title.

    That's the entire point
     
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  8. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. But I'm saying, he just wouldn't be at the level he was, if he had to defend against dangerous guys.

    Look at this point.

    Lewis, at 39 years of age, and at least 30 pounds overweight, in semi retirement, beat a peak Vitali. And forget all of this rubbish about VK being technically ahead on points. It was a close fight that VK was never winning from round 6. He was on his way out.

    Vitali is a much better fighter than Wlad.

    That's what level we are at.

    Wlad wouldn't even beat a 39 year old Lennox Lewis
     
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  9. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    hmmmmmmmm :think

    this could very well be true too....good response.
     
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  10. The Clown

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    your thinking scheme:

    Fighter A who lost to Klitschko almost lost tom bum B, so Klitschko is a bum too.

    You wanna a real serious answer?

    The answer is, that you dont deserve an proper answer about that bull****.


    your hypothesis:

    Corrie Sanders wont be going to any ATG list.

    reality:

    on which ATG list are Oliver McCall, Hasim Rahman, Buster Douglas?

    Get over it. Klitschko will be very likely an ATG after he ends his career. And you, you will be here and open stupid threads and find some cheerleaders who pay you the attention you may not got in your childhood.
     
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  11. Undisputet

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    This Chagaev beat both Hayes best career wins :

    Valuev and Ruiz.



    Twat. :hi:
     
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  12. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    He beat Ruiz fairly easily. Chagaev is a technical boxer, he boxed Ruiz to a wide decision... one of the best wins anyone's had over Ruiz since Jones did it.

    Ibragimov - learn to spell you uneducated twat.

    Really, I'm impressed you rate them both over Byrd.

    I saw how he struggled against Valuev. I'm not sure I'll ever recover from the tedium.

    Adamek is a serious boxer, LHW and CW champion. Solid guy overall, he would be close to the top of the HW division in any generation.

    What does Haye's weight have to do with the price of tea in China?

    Wake the **** up Rip Van Winkle, it's 2010 not 2004! :-(
     
    the_brigand, Sep 14, 2010
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  13. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :happy:happy:lol::good:good
     
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  14. larsker

    larsker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i just do not get this terrible overall comp thing i just think this is American propganda, these heavy weights are decent much better than guys like Carnera who = Lance Whitaker
     
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  15. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    Wlad of 2010 is better then Vitali of 2003. period.
    Forget all this stuff about cut, Vitali of 2003 was boxing the crap out of old-fat Lewis and had it not been for the cut probably would have won on points or gone for the KO late. The point is that Wlad of 2010 would have had little to no problem with the 2003 version of Lewis and would have been on even ground with the prime in-shape version of Lewis.
     
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