Blood Tests vs. Tattoos

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by omiyourhomie, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With the recent failed mayweather vs. pacquiao negotiations, a lot of people seem to be saying that if pacquiao is "covered in tattoos" why is he scared of taking a blood test? Let me just say that comparing blood tests with getting a tattoo is completely different. I'll explain some differences (for those of you have never gotten a tattoo).

    1) Needles
    While giving blood, the needle is significantly much bigger than one used for tattoos. The needle for tattoos you can barely even see, given that it's moving at such a fast rate, and doesn't penetrate as far as a needle in a blood test. so that in itself is a huge difference

    2) Pain
    Yea both hurt but honestly it's not that bad for either of them. for blood testing it only hurts when they put the needle in and the pain lasts for 2-seconds maximum. For tattoos...the pain itself is less, but for a more prolonged period of time...it feels more like an annoying scratch than anything else, and is really easy to get used to. boxers endure way more pain in the ring, and therefore pain is not a factor here.

    3) Blood
    yes, you bleed a little bit when you get a tattoo, but it's no more than falling off a bike and losing blood from a scrape on your knee. Taking a blood test is different for many people, and sometimes you need to get poked MANY times to get a good vein, but as soon as a good one is found, a significant amount of blood is taken out of you. It is this loss of blood which can cause people to faint, and i have never heard of anyone fainting from getting a tattoo (but who knows maybe there have been), but it is very common to feel "weak" after a blood test...and many nurses recommend to not perform hard physical activity for a while afterward.

    4) Soreness
    It is very common for people to try to "handicap" their arm after getting a blood test (meaning...to not use it as much as the other arm), as that area is still very vulnerable to pain, infection, etc. and this can cause fighters to temporarily stop their training, which might be very inconvenient for them. When it comes to getting a tattoo...it all depends on where you get the tattoo, and how big it is. In pacquiao's case...his tattoos are for the most part reeaally small and in places where soreness is a minimum...

    well anyway, i hope i've enlightened some of you on some differences between these two, they shouldn't be compared, just like ufc and boxing shouldn't be compared. ok hasta luego
     
  2. Interceptor

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    blood testing didn't effect Shane and Floyd...or the thousands of other athletes that have to PROVE they're clean
     
  3. johnnydrama

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    Manny is affected by giving blood. But he still does what is required of him. That's not the same as ACCEPTING what Floyd demanded after creating unfounded accusations about PAC MAN doping.:lol:

    PAC really wants to fight Floyd but he doesn't have to give into all the brats demands. By even entertaining the fight after Floyd BLATANTLY looked as if he was searching for an out with the allegations he pushed, Manny proved he's willing to go BEYOND what is considered the "halfway" point.

    Everytime anther demand of Floyd is met, Floyd moves the line. What can you do when Floyd removes the half way line with a "line" like. "I'm going on vacation"?:rofl
     
  4. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree. I am not saying it will be the same for every person. All I am saying is that they are very different...
     
  5. omiyourhomie

    omiyourhomie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  6. sillyjoow

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    boring. gonna happen eventually
     
  7. greatone

    greatone Active Member Full Member

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    Uhh, i think your getting blood samples and blood donations mixed up. I have done all three and I have never been affected by one or even five small vials of blood in any way, but i did get light headed after donating a pint. Also My tat hurt way worse than either of the other two.
     
  8. Interceptor

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    C'mon...

    Manny used the lamest excuse EVER.

    Even Freddy Roach said he'd take the test if he was in Manny's shoes.:lol:
     
  9. Interceptor

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    :yep:yep:yep
     
  10. johnnydrama

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    Having Blood taken from people affect them in different ways. I can have a pint taken from me and I'll be fine. But my mother.....she's out of commission for a whole day after getting simple blood work done.

    It's just like Flying.....I'm fine with it. But my wife....:patschIt's like she's goin through an siesure at times.:lol:
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Whatever happened to the ideal scenario that every athlete is routinely blood tested? Oh, no one pushes for it because 75% of athletes are taking some kind of steroid. Ever since the Steelers in the 1970's, most athletes have been. You don't think the mid to late 1970's Muhammad Ali was on steroids? Think again. If skinny white QB Terry Bradshaw was on them before and throughout, you think a boxer who is most dependent on their body, let alone the heavyweight champ, wouldn't be? And that isn't even talking about Manny Pacquiao, 106 lb debut and moved up from 130 pounds to 151 (haha, 151) in just over 2 years while increasing both speed and power isn't. Oh, and Freddie Roach has trained fighters three times that have failed post fight tests. Roach should be banned from boxing. What a scumbag he is to say what he says of Margarito while he has done equal to worse multiple times.
     
  12. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    I've donated blood, had my blood taken countless times for medical screenings, and have a tattoo. None of the three bother me but a good friend of mine had a simple vial taken and passed the **** out. I walked in to get my blood drawn and he was laying on the ground trying to get himself back together afterwards. It's not the same for everyone. This is such a moronic issue. First people say he's a baby for thinking that having his blood drawn too early to the fight will affect him and then they say he's hiding when he offers a compromise. and THEN they're mad he didn't take the offer the first time around when Floyd pretty much acknowledged that he agreed to the blood testing after having his spokesbitch deny the second round of negotiations. Ridiculous.
     
  13. johnnydrama

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    Even with Random blood test athletes are beating the system. Even Floyd himself didn't want that.

    What Floyd wanted was a way to dictate the blood tests for manny so that close to the fight he'd have blood taken from him.

    He didn't want the TRUE Olympic style testing b/c that would have been a year round commitment which is why his demands and claims to want to "clean up boxing" was met with laughs.

    Plus....Manny's speed hasn't gotten any better as he's moved up in weight. His power hasn't gotten better it just seems to have moved up with him which is great but not uncommon.

    And Roach has only trianed one fighter who failed a post fight test. James Toney but at the time James wasn't trained by Freddie.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    needle vs syringe.

    completely different
     
  15. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didn't Manny agree to full testing during the 2nd neg. He said it in several interviews that he accepted all in the 2nd negotiation. Mayweather even said that "poochio, agreed to tests". I don't know why idiots are still pushing this argument. It is dead. Floyd went on vacation because he was scared and got caught up iin some bs. Floyd is paying now for not staying busy.