MCCAIN, The Great White Knight here to save Boxing

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  1. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Uhmmm. He actually was a hero. He didn't just serve in the millitary. Maybe you should read a bit of history. The man was tortured for years in the Hanoi Hilton and refused to leave his men even though he had a free pass home because he was the son of an admiral. Also, if you hate a politican over a single issue...well, you're just a nut.
     
  2. Pax

    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I assume he intends to follow the constitution, if not obviouslly this will not work. I apoligize if I made you angry w/ asking posters to support his ideas. I suppose I'm just kinda bias on wanting the sport to improve. We often spend countless hrs. on ESB debating each other and I felt this is 1 idea most could agree on.
    Do you think maybe he can retool his ideas to become constitutional?
    I too see many roadblocks............I just feel support by us would help his cause. Not support to become president of the US, just support on boxing reform to help the boxers and fans.
     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wasn't angry, sorry if it came off that way. TBH, I was more annoyed at McCain and his grandstanding, because he knows the constitution and what he's proposing is just fluff to get people to vote for him back when he said it. It's more promises for things he'd never actually intend to deliver on, and technically it'd be impossible as well.

    Boxing needs someone with some balls, money, and clout to start things I suppose?
     
  4. hungover

    hungover Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well, hes a military 'hero' in that sense sure, but it was during the Vietnam War, which was an illegal and unethical war in the first place. so its hard to have a war 'hero' during a war that shouldnt have happened. its like applauding and giving a title to Mayweather for beating a 54-year old Ray Leonard. it shouldnt have happened.

    also, its not just that one policy of course. hes a globalist who supports NAFTA and other organizations that destroy third world country economies. the list goes on though
     
  5. Pax

    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think people link him to "hero" b/c when he had the oppurtunity to escape torture and return to his home.....choose to stay and not leave any of his men behind. Maybe the war was wrong, but this loyality deserves respect.
    He is a man's man and I hope he can make some positive changes to boxing.
     
  6. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Soldiers fight regarless of whether or not a war is popular or ethical. There is no curve. You don't get credit for being a hero only if the war is just. He was a hero. That's all. In my humble opinion, all wars are wrong, but some are necessary. WW 2 is the most obvious example. But compared to WW1, Vietnam was well justified. The so-called Great War happened because an archduke was assasinated and no one wanted to back down. Vietname occurred because the Soviets were sending aid an arms to the vietcong because they wanted to spread communism. It wasn't just a civil war. In fact, I think it was more legitimate than what we did in Iraq. It was still wrong, I agree. We shouldn't have gotten involved. But we only know that in retrospect.
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This. What he did in that situation is what defined him as a hero not what was the political context.
     
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    hungover Well-Known Member Full Member

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    okay, hes a hero, but hes a shitty politician nonetheless
     
  9. Pax

    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the system now encourages fighter to protect their "0" at all costs.
    In ufc many of the best superstars have 5+ loses b/c they constantly fight the best opposition. Imaginage boxing w/o "ducking" or "hypejobs"
    The best proven fighters get the respect and fame, not the calculated duckers.
     
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    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They would not have to give a huge portion of the $$$ to the promoters.
    I'm sure the big stars would not like it b/c it might expose them, but this system would create many big stars not just a few, which all others must beg for a payday.
     
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    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Sounds good, but i don't see this happening no time soon.
     
  12. steele311

    steele311 Wanna Dance? Full Member

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    lol, some of you need to open your eyes to some of the truths being withheld about his whole ordeal over there. You might not think he was so courageous after reading that article I linked on pg. 1 of this thread... The media wants us all to believe one small fraction of the whole situation, the other parts of the reality are usually not spoken about as with a lot of people in the public eye..
     
  13. Pax

    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's awesome!!
    What a man's man, i'd wanna get laid in Brazil also after yrs. of torture.
    I kinda though he was dorky. but now I give he mad props.
    Don't hate the playa hate the game, gay boy! nice avy btw
    This dude is awesome: A former boxer, war hero, and a playboy!

    Your article is writen by the left wing magizine rolling stone, which i happen to like, however does that mean it's the end all at telling the truth. Why do you not see them in the same skeptiacl light of other publishcations?

    The point is to reform boxing and at least he's voicing smart ideas.
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    love him (mc cain) or hate him, the Ali Act was his.

     
  15. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    If you dont support John McCain then guess what.... you aint a fan of the sport of boxing.