Cotto or Mayweather: Who has the better resume at Light welterweight.

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Im not biased I tell the truth. Just like I told everyone Pacquiao was going to have Cotto out by 6 rounds. Which is right around where Cotto decided he could no longer when and did that thing where he gets on his bike, basically when he concedes the fight. He's a jack of all trades type fighter a master of none. One of the most overrated fighters over the last 5 years.

    Its not the fighter, its the performance. A performance that obviously had Cotto and Hattons teams shaking in their boots. What are you struggling with here. Noones saying it was a great win, but noone every treated Gatti like that and its one of the best single performances in terms of skill and overall domination this decade. As to why its so remember. Again not hard to understand.

    Very few fighters have won belts over 3 divisions. So it obviously matters. Mayweather fought a bunch of C level and B level fighters is true. But he did it over multiple weight classes and beat the champ in each division he was in. Can you tell me when if ever Cotto has won a lineal or undisputed championship in his entire career?

    Cotto fought better competiton at 147. But he lost 2, badly, and got a gift in a 3rd. In terms of actually winning fights and real championships, not vacated ones, Mayweather is ahead.
     
  2. enormous

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    Are you a former world champion?
     
  3. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How could Mayweather do anything at 140? He was forced to move up for the biggest fight possible- a fight with Judah at 147 for the undisputed championship.

    Hatton- Rejected a bout
    Cotto- Rejected a bout
    Tszyu- Lost and never returned

    Hatton and Cotto's promoter's were right- they wouldve been stupid to put them in with Mayweather at 140. They weren't ready, and IMO never would be. But at least they could cash them in first.

    Arum did a great job promoting Cotto, and brought him up perfectly. He placed Cotto in with solid, world class fighters of all different styles but who were flawed as well (hence, they weren't elite). Then when he moved to 147, he was ready for anyone.
     
  4. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    While Cotto does have a better resume alot of that because he stayed their longer.......it still doesnt erase the fact that when given a chance to fight Floyd.....he was GREEN and not ready...so it really doesnt matter.

    If by fighting all that so called tough competition and when it comes time to face the best your not ready .....it dont mean much when comparing the two.

    Floyd three fights at 140 ready to fight

    Cotto had double that and was still too green so to speak.
     
  5. avenel

    avenel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    cotto by a ****ing mile!
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    True. Always made me wonder why, at the time, Floyd wanted to fight s 23yo who only had about 22 fights. And people give Cotto/Arum shoit for not taking that fight? :huh
     
  7. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    sure.......its fine to praise him for i guess beating all this stiff comp at the weight and at that age but soons we mention this....he's too young.

    aiight.

    all im saying is whats the point in comparing the two when resume or not the other is still better.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I didn't say he was too young. Actually, YOU said he was green and not ready. But I agree with that. No ****in way was he ready for Floyd at 140 when Floyd decided he wanted him.

    Praising him for his good comp doesn't mean he's ready for a top P4P guy like Floyd.

    Why would a guy, champion since 1998, 30+ fights, send out a challenge to someone who at the time was just over 20 and had about 22-23 fights?
     
  9. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    young green not ready watever....pick one

    im not saying your wrong but im saying their is really no reason to keep comparing 140 resumes cus at the time it still made no difference we know who the better fighter is...

    now a 147 resume fine

    140....just dont understand why even comapring these two here.
     
  10. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    no doubt...only trying to find out the reason for comaprison here....at 147 i can understand here though....i dont see what he is trying to say.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Green and young are not the same. Green refers to your experience, young, your age.

    Dude, there's nothing wrong with comparing resumes. You seem to take offense to these just because people think Cotto has a better resume at 140 & 147.

    Who the better fighter is has nothing to do with this. However, funny how the better fighter has the weaker of the two resume's at 140 & 147. What does that say of the better fighter....
     
  12. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    fine green.....sheesh

    its nothing wrong with it but what are we getting at with this? 140 Cotto still didnt beat a champ for his belt...funny how he has yet to beat a champ for his belt...what does that say?

    and come on at 140 Hatton Zu and Cotto.....only fights worth it really...unless you have some others....

    We know the Cotto situation

    Hatton wasnt ready either....i dont know what your going to call that one

    Zu was showtime ( had he won against Hatton i think it could have happened though)

    these were the three best fights you agree?
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    So ****in what? Floyd beat a paper champ in Gatti. But at least Cotto DEFENDED that belt. That's what makes a belt legit, defending it.


    Hmm...brussells wasn't worth it, yet that happened right?

    Oh please....save the weak commentary. Did it ever occur to that maybe Hatton and Cotto really WEREN'T ready for someone as good as Floyd? Is that a crime?

    Were they the best fights? That depends entirely on what you mean by best. they were perhaps the most lucrative fights there.
     
  14. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    again defend it against WHO?????? thos three were the cream of the crop they werent ready no big deal he moved on to 147.....all im saying is the comaprison is resume isnt suited here because Floyd had no one else to fight he moved on...Cotto started at 140 course his resume will be better....its ******ed.

    Well give me someone else he had already fought Corley...so who else besides Brussels?

    commentating? lol...whatever..fact is a 140 resume comparison between the too means shyt.

    WHat would have been floyds best fights at 140? This is a legit question though...not even pokin fun just gettin anothers opinion on that.
     
  15. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    Cotto's resume at 140 is much better than Pacquiao's too, but we all know what happen to poor Miguel "Angel" Cotto, LMFAO!!!!!